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hello everyone this is a special report

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I'm doing with Dave Beatty the creator

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of the Nimitz encounter film Dave is a

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filmmaker a UFO researcher and was a

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former television journalist he has done

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films for History Channel PBS and Travel

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Channel thank you Dave for being on the

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show today Thank You Jan it's great to

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be here I wanted to ask you a few

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questions the question I wanted to ask

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you first was there's a new witness from

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the sonar operators that you and Gary

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have been discussing how did you track

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him down what's his story

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yeah you know Gary probably has

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mentioned this you know in the show and

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it's really interesting to me that when

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the the witnesses see the film and they

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see the show on the History Channel

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unidentified you know I think that that

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has in some ways allowed them to kind of

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come forward because they see that other

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people are interested in this in talking

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about it so we've had several you know

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Navy veterans come forward and talk to

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you know Jason and Kevin and Gary and

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Patrick saying you know yeah I was there

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and one of the gentlemen that you may

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have already heard the story sort of

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confirmed to Gary that you know he was

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there in combat information in the sonar

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department that week in November and you

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know I guess that he was from his

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perspective they didn't see any context

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under the water which is sort of new

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information somebody else had mentioned

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to Gary that there were contacts under

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the water and this guy you know

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basically said that's incorrect and

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again I don't want to kind of repeat

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this because I think Gary's already

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mentioned it in the show but it's pretty

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interesting new information and I would

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like to make it clear for our listeners

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that Dave is talking about Gary Voorhees

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is that correct

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that's right I sometimes assume people

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know who I'm talking about and we do

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have to mention that Gary Voorhees who's

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the fire-control men on the USS

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Princeton wonderful

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of the USS Nimitz CDC watch team also

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known as combat Direction Center from

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the Oh aye division on the carrier says

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he saw something truly amazing on radar

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the whole week yeah now that one is

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really interesting because there's been

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very very few witnesses that have come

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forward from USS Nimitz obviously you

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know we you're talking to aviation Tech

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Patrick Hughes that was a member of the

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Wallbanger squadron for the e-2 Hawkeye

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early warning airplanes and you know his

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story is pretty remarkable you know I

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have an address an email address in the

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film asking people to come forward so

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sometimes I'll get an email from

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military service members in this case I

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got an email from a gentleman that said

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that he was in the CDC you know combat

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space within the Nimitz aircraft carrier

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and that's similar to the CIC or combat

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sort of the nerve center of the ship

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with all the radars and so on and this

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gentleman indicated that he had seen you

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know all of the unknown tracks that were

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going on that week of November run from

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like around November temped we think the

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15th or 16th that whole timeframe he

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said that you know he indicated that he

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was aware of even some other areas

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he hasn't cleared that up for me yet but

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he said that there's some areas where

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these contacts occurred that aren't

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mentioned in the film so I'm trying to

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find out you know where those things

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were obviously Kevin was seeing them

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coming south from San Clemente Island

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Guadalupe Island off the coast of Baja

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Mexico during that week this gentleman

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said there was some other area so I'm

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not sure what he meant by that but one

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of the things that he said it was really

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really interesting to me that I have

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never heard anyone talk about this he

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said that what about the meeting and and

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I said you know

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he said you didn't mention the meeting

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and he said the meeting was at Sims hall

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and Point Loma and he said it was the

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ASW base so that's all he said it first

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and I won't had to go back and look in

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and find that and doing a quick search I

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realized that that's a part of the Navy

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base there in San Diego and it's it's

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this part of the submarine base its

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anti-submarine warfare and I found like

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if you go Sims Hall like si mm s Hall it

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shows it on Google Earth is this

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building so I said to him you know what

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was this about and he said that after

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the Nimitz came back to the pier after

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that November encounter and that

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training exercise that all the people

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that were involved with the unknown UFOs

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were asked to go to Sims Hall so it

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wasn't like everybody was a specific

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group of individuals and he said that

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once they were in Sims Hall its Sims

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Hall these individuals and he didn't say

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who they were and he said he didn't know

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them address the group and basically

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told them that quote we don't know what

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those things were but we don't want you

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talking about it nonetheless so they

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were instructed by some type of

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officials not to talk about this event

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and he's actually been very hesitant

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just tell me anything I mean he doesn't

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he didn't give me his name and we did I

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did have Patrick Hughes who's was in on

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us Nimitz to that sort of talk to this

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gentleman and ask him a whole bunch of

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questions about what he his job was when

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what he claimed he did and in patrick

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said he pretty much checked out as far

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as he's concerned I mean we haven't gone

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so far as to get paperwork as far as

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like his DD 214 form from the military

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and all that but at this point he seems

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pretty legit and it's kind of

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things he said because I was asking well

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who was at the meeting and he said all

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the people that were involved in this

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and he said and the pilots and I don't

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him there were some pilots at this

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meeting in Sims Hall so it's all new

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information sort of breaking right now

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understood

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Dave regarding FOIAs and missing deck

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locks which docks are missing Chris

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Mullin mentioned this on unidentified

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the History Channel show unidentified

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the vessels that were there to try to

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correlate the timing and to see if there

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was any mention of unknown objects or

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anything unusual in those logs

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watchstanders are noting everything that

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the weather when they turned the lights

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on that small detail you know when the

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captain arrives and everything else well

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the USS Princeton the Navy came back and

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told us that they're missing and it

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individual that I was working with it

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the name he was helpful and I asked you

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know is that common and and she said it

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was highly unusual that that would occur

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that they're required to you know submit

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every year their deck logs to this

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archive in the Navy and that she had no

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explanation and because it had been so

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why they didn't submit the logs they

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said that they also want to Naval

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chance that they were routed over there

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that as well and I said well what would

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document was classified but she said

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that it was pretty highly unlikely in

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the case of a cruiser in you know in a

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training environment like that that

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aasif ID she just didn't think that was

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likely now on the show unidentified

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the National Archives and I guess that's

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the same thing we were looking in you

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history and maybe that's what he was

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talking about so we those decks are lost

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or missing that's very odd and I don't

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think that's coincidental either the

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female pilot has come poured on the

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talked about it last May Dave no one

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however Frank and I did what about what

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she said yeah I mean that was surprising

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to me because all this time you know we

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were sort of aware of that and I don't

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know when I first was bringing it up and

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inquiring with some of the pilots I

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thought that they didn't like the fact

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that I was bringing it up because from

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what I understand they were they were

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covering for her they she didn't want

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her name out there she don't want anyone

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the publicity they did on every major

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news show on the New York Times no one

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ever said female pilot they always made

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slate was the other pilot and they kind

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wing man but you would assume that that

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he was the pilot then but I found out

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just by putting pieces together that it

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seemed to be this lieutenant a younger

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pilot that was on her first carrier

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deployment so that I was putting that

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I forget worth when the first

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confirmation was but I guess I'd have to

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say it was unidentified episode one

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where there she is in silhouette you

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know with her identity hidden and she's

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talking and we're hearing her for the

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first time no one had ever heard her her

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voice she had written her description of

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the events in what's called the pilots

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report which is found on the to the

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Academy's Community Interest website you

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indication of

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gender at all but that's her you know

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you understand where her mindset was

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that day she was frightened actually of

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this occurrence she was she was

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concerned about it especially when the

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controllers began asking about weapons

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years after civilian aircraft had been

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you know hijacked and flown into you

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know our national you know you know

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Pentagon and the whole thing the World

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Trade Center people are on edge about

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like airplanes that are not that don't

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have transponders that are flying around

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and no one can contact them so she was

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concerned they're asking about weapons

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so she thought maybe that this was some

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type of civilian plane that had been

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hijacked that might be flying into the

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carrier or something like that they

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didn't know what it was at that point so

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you imagine you know they're asking

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about weapons she's thinking what are we

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gonna do if we get out there and it's

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like some type of terrorist or something

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we have no weapons and you could tell

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like there was that concern in her voice

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I know that you know since then other

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people have commented that that she if

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if this was like our technology in the

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end you know this these objects that she

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would also be furious that they would

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put their own air crews in a situation

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like that where they're like going into

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something that's like our own technology

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what they call blue on blue so again

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it's it's really really interesting to

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hear her comments on that show I

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actually thought it was great so just a

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side question here have you ever had

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contact with her ever had the

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opportunity to speak with her or do you

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wish to you know I made a pledge back

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when I first started talking to some of

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the pilots that I had no intention of

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using her name I had no intention of

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talking to her that I respected her

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wishes to remain anonymous the only

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thing that I wanted to do is do a

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recreation that got the facts right

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which is like if there's a female flying

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the Jedi wanted to say there was a

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female in the chat I had enough

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information from the pilots report which

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is her description of the whole event to

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write a script about it so I didn't

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really feel like needed to I mean

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obviously I've got to talk to all of

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them but again because I made that

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pledge with it I've never attempted to

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contact or I never used her name I

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understood Dave there have been several

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versions of the film the minute Deena

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mitts encounter one in November 2018

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with commander flavor then another

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version in April 2000 19 and the one now

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which totals what appears to be three

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versions of the same documentary with

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several more witnesses added to that new

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documentary why do you keep changing it

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Dave well you know one reason is because

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new information keeps coming out another

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thing you know when I first started

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contemplating putting this film together

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I figured I'm not gonna play by the

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rules I'm not gonna do something just

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because you have to make a film that's

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like goes out there and it's done you

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know and then then you move on never

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look at it again my feeling was like

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look this is the Internet I could post

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the same film and add stuff to it every

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month for the next 10 years if there was

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new information the the ending hat isn't

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written yet so I went into it with like

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this idea this is a nonlinear film it's

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it's basically going to evolve over time

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as the story changes you know like we

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were talking about with the the

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underwater UFOs and the sonar guys

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saying that didn't happen well you know

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if that's wrong then in the film the

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next version has to change to evolve and

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as these new witnesses come out the

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first version I didn't have any of the

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witnesses that are in the film now I

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didn't have them on camera all I had was

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you know the commander flavor interview

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which I had I had received permission

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from to the stars Academy to use a

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little snippet of this interview on

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their website so then moving forward

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into you know that next year

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I got word from them that commander

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freighter saw the film you know you know

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that it had become pretty popular like

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1.5 million views and he didn't want his

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interview used him in the film because

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he said that it was only for to the

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stars only for their website and he

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wanted it taken out of my film that you

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know for whatever reason but I respect

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that I respect people's wishes even

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though I had gotten permission from to

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the stars you know again I had never

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been able I had never been able to

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contact flavor myself even though I did

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send them an email and so on I just

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wasn't able to talk to him so I figured

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I had to take it out so the next version

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they came out was you know it had some

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of the witnesses but phone interviews I

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didn't I still didn't have a chance to

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get in person and do interviews on

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camera with them so the next version

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that came out I think in March 2019

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featured those telephone or yet

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telephone interviews for instance and I

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mentioned a few of the other guys had

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some still photos and so on of them that

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later that month I got together with

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them out in Nevada at the UFO Megacon

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event and I seized that opportunity I

393
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mean I had for the witnesses actually I

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helped kind of put them in touch with

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the coordinators of that a bad and so

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you know we were all gonna be there at

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the same time I was like this is a

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perfect you know a perfect opportunity

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so I brought my camera equipment out

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there and interviewed each one of those

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guys so I got cabin day from the

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Princeton that Gary Voorhees from the

403
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Princeton Jason Turner from the

404
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Princeton and Patrick Hughes from the

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Nimitz and we just went out outside of

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town there in beautiful Nevada desert

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and Canyon and spent an hour with each

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one of them kind of talking about the

409
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events and they explained everything

410
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that happened to him that week I planned

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by the way on releasing each one of

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those interviews in its entirety which

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again that's a whole another video for

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people to enjoy this topic can see

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coming up soon I'll put that on my

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Tube channel so now that I had those

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four for interviews what I did is I

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rewrote the script to incorporate what

419
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they had said and so coming up we we

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looked at the schedule and we noticed

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that the History Channel show is going

422
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to be airing I think the next weekend

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well would have been like May 31st or

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first week or something like that right

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um no yeah right May 1st I think so

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we were like will launch ours the

427
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weekend before that the Sunday is a good

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night so we scheduled the release of the

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film

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on April 26 just so happen I didn't know

431
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this just so happened that you know that

432
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was the same day that that New York

433
00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:27,700
Times article came out but anyways

434
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that's the story of why and of course in

435
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this version we don't have commander

436
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forever since he wanted to be taken out

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and that's why he's not in it understood

438
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by the way the video that you did the

439
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incan omits encounters documentary and

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that was wildly and is wildly popular in

441
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Amazon is it still there on Amazon it's

442
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not on Amazon right now I'm doing a new

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audio mix and I'm going to soon as I get

444
00:19:02,909 --> 00:19:00,340
that new audio mix I'm gonna put it back

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the one that was on Amazon going back to

446
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last year had commander flavor in it so

447
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as you know since I had to take that I

448
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agreed to take that out I pulled it off

449
00:19:13,019 --> 00:19:11,890
the Amazon but I'll let you guys know

450
00:19:14,130 --> 00:19:13,029
it'll be up there soon good I just

451
00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:14,140
wanted to clear that up

452
00:19:20,010 --> 00:19:17,350
yes I understand that because but folks

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when they think about the minim it's

454
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encounter documentary you did they

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automatically think about Amazon and so

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although you made it very clear

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regarding sort of the the provenance the

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history of events regarding what has

459
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happened it's still important for folks

460
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to understand whether it's there on

461
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Amazon or not but it will be going back

462
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up again soon on Amazon is that correct

463
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in a different format

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that's correct yeah all right has anyone

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from TTS a or History Channel ever

466
00:19:55,649 --> 00:19:53,019
contacted you Dave no one's contacted me

467
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from the hmm from you know aside from

468
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the little commander frayberg deal there

469
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no one's can make contact with me from

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TTS eh no one from history channels

471
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unidentified shows contacted me but just

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recently within the last month I was

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contacted by the show in search of which

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is that new History Channel show that

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you know they explore sort of mysteries

476
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and so on it's it's a remake of the 70s

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show with Leonard Nimoy actually it's a

478
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pretty interesting show so they contact

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me and said Dave we absolutely love the

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graphics that you did in the Nimitz

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Encounters it's there any possibility

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that we can source some of those

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computer graphics for an episode an

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upcoming episode that we're gonna be

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doing on UFOs and so on and I was like

486
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more than happy to provide that you know

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for them so I'm anxious to see what's

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gonna become of that that's fantastic

489
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congratulations regarding dad Dave what

490
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about NDA's in reference to the Navy

491
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there's been a lot of questions about

492
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that because in my documentary there's a

493
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scene where I showed out and people have

494
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over and over said how can these guys

495
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come forward with these stories if they

496
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sign NDA's that is impossible they would

497
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be in jail this isn't wrong it's a lie

498
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well if you really watch the documentary

499
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you would understand there's only one

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individual that claims to have signed an

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NDA and he's not in the film other than

502
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other people mentioning him we use you

503
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know a pseudonym for him called Roger he

504
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doesn't want to come out he doesn't want

505
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his name used he contacted me early on

506
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Patrick Hughes knows this gentleman

507
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personally and basically they vouch for

508
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each other of this event and this this

509
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person basically said that when they

510
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landed on the

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the carrier after their mission with the

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e-2 Hawkeye they were brought down into

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the ship and they had to sign NDA's now

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it's my understanding that the subject

515
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matter of the NDA is a classified Center

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and that's what they can't talk about

517
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not necessarily the tic-tac UFO per se

518
00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:21,710
everyone else is talking about the tic

519
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tacs as you know so yeah I think that

520
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that while he did sign an NDA he hasn't

521
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really broken that it unless just saying

522
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that you sign one is against against it

523
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I don't know so that's a very good point

524
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actually I wanted to ask you the

525
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military having allegedly taken data

526
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which was considered key evidence to

527
00:22:52,690 --> 00:22:48,109
this Nimitz event how do we know that's

528
00:22:55,810 --> 00:22:52,700
accurate well you know hopefully Patrick

529
00:22:57,940 --> 00:22:55,820
has clarified that and I think that in

530
00:23:00,609 --> 00:22:57,950
my document dot in in my documentary

531
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film you know we spent you know several

532
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:02,419
minutes with him telling the story of

533
00:23:08,919 --> 00:23:06,080
what happened there's been a few people

534
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that have verified that as well that are

535
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sort of you know they don't want to come

536
00:23:16,210 --> 00:23:13,070
forward at this time but they served

537
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together with Patrick as well as Roger

538
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and so on in that Wallbangers workshop

539
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and there were several people that

540
00:23:25,629 --> 00:23:23,779
witnessed these guys coming in and he

541
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:25,639
Patrick you know said that they were Air

542
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Force officers that came with his Co you

543
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know came in there and said we want that

544
00:23:35,919 --> 00:23:33,710
hard drive that came off with the e to

545
00:23:39,489 --> 00:23:35,929
Hawkeye plane that had witnessed these

546
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:39,499
tick-tack things and Patrick said it was

547
00:23:45,070 --> 00:23:43,039
highly unusual but he he took him out of

548
00:23:48,219 --> 00:23:45,080
the safe and sighted out to these guys

549
00:23:50,499 --> 00:23:48,229
that and they left and it you know I

550
00:23:52,450 --> 00:23:50,509
actually put it together with Gary

551
00:23:54,219 --> 00:23:52,460
because I was asking Gary afterwards I

552
00:23:56,409 --> 00:23:54,229
said Gary or he's from the Prince though

553
00:23:59,379 --> 00:23:56,419
I said Gary did anyone ever take any of

554
00:24:01,509 --> 00:23:59,389
your dating he's like yeah and I'm like

555
00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:01,519
what do you mean yeah when he was like

556
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:03,590
right after the event I'm like man how

557
00:24:09,070 --> 00:24:04,849
come he didn't tell me that I've been

558
00:24:11,050 --> 00:24:09,080
you didn't ask me so these Navy

559
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:11,060
nice for like that you have to realize

560
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:12,890
that you really have to ask them

561
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:14,720
specific questions because they're not

562
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:17,210
gonna volunteer it but Gary said that

563
00:24:22,660 --> 00:24:20,090
yet okay that's not important but Gary's

564
00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:22,670
said that these guys came on board on a

565
00:24:27,790 --> 00:24:25,460
helicopter maybe a few hours or whatever

566
00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:27,800
an hour so after this event with the tic

567
00:24:35,050 --> 00:24:30,830
tacs and so on and he was in charge of

568
00:24:37,390 --> 00:24:35,060
tape recordings of data from the CIC and

569
00:24:40,150 --> 00:24:37,400
they wanted those tapes and this is like

570
00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:40,160
the aegis combat system and they took

571
00:24:45,490 --> 00:24:42,350
the tapes and you know had to sign them

572
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:45,500
out chain of custody and they made him

573
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:48,080
erase all of the other tapes he had left

574
00:24:53,950 --> 00:24:50,210
that were even if they were blank like

575
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:53,960
just tape cassettes so that there was

576
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:56,240
nothing left on the ship that had any

577
00:25:01,540 --> 00:24:57,890
evidence is there another system called

578
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:01,550
the CEC and he said they erased that so

579
00:25:08,530 --> 00:25:05,330
pretty much all this data that was you

580
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:08,540
know probably capturing these tic tacs

581
00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:12,110
on radar and so and seems to be gone so

582
00:25:16,930 --> 00:25:14,990
I understood I actually want to make a

583
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:16,940
comment you know I've had a lot of

584
00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:20,720
family members and friends who have been

585
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:22,790
in the military and I used to hear this

586
00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:24,710
kind of comment a lot and that is when

587
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:26,950
she joined the military they own you and

588
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:29,510
it whether it's an expression or not or

589
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:32,810
it's literal they literally can come in

590
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:35,090
and they can make you do something like

591
00:25:38,430 --> 00:25:37,520
that such as erase tapes isn't that

592
00:25:42,610 --> 00:25:38,440
correct

593
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:42,620
yeah I think Gary put it bluntly when he

594
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:45,440
when people would say if they said you

595
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:47,510
know give us the tapes and then people

596
00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:49,250
would say well why didn't why didn't you

597
00:25:53,410 --> 00:25:51,710
why didn't you give it to him and it's

598
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:53,420
because the you'll go to jail

599
00:25:59,680 --> 00:25:57,110
if you refuse to do it you know you want

600
00:26:02,860 --> 00:25:59,690
to go to jail these I guess his his

601
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:02,870
chain of command or whatever these

602
00:26:06,610 --> 00:26:04,640
people that came on board were the kind

603
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:06,620
of people that you didn't question and

604
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:08,480
they could do anything that they wanted

605
00:26:13,810 --> 00:26:10,610
that's what he said understood and I

606
00:26:15,730 --> 00:26:13,820
believed him Dave wanted the pilot said

607
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:15,740
there's no longer video from flür one

608
00:26:21,070 --> 00:26:18,770
but Jason Turner said there is has

609
00:26:24,019 --> 00:26:21,080
anyone else confirmed that

610
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:24,029
yeah that that's a question we're in

611
00:26:28,249 --> 00:26:26,070
relationship to the length of the video

612
00:26:28,970 --> 00:26:28,259
that we have that was released to the

613
00:26:31,340 --> 00:26:28,980
public

614
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:31,350
you know the FLIR one is the one with

615
00:26:36,739 --> 00:26:33,840
the little fuzzy white egg-shaped object

616
00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:36,749
in the center of the screen it's about a

617
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,169
minute 16 seconds the one that was

618
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:42,960
released well as Jason has said Jason

619
00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:44,610
Turner from the US Princeton has said

620
00:26:51,230 --> 00:26:46,950
that there's a much longer fill in the

621
00:26:54,259 --> 00:26:51,240
he saw it in the the ships secure space

622
00:26:58,759 --> 00:26:54,269
that he was in I guess he was shown that

623
00:27:00,739 --> 00:26:58,769
by another veteran that at that time you

624
00:27:02,869 --> 00:27:00,749
know said take a look at this and he

625
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:02,879
said it was probably somewhere between

626
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,480
five and ten minutes in length so that's

627
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:08,480
what you know it's one person's

628
00:27:15,019 --> 00:27:11,490
observation since that time there's been

629
00:27:18,379 --> 00:27:15,029
a few other individuals that have sort

630
00:27:19,789 --> 00:27:18,389
of clarify that in some ways you know

631
00:27:21,789 --> 00:27:19,799
and again some of this stuff I don't

632
00:27:24,879 --> 00:27:21,799
even ask it just comes forward

633
00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:24,889
researcher Robert Powell just last week

634
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:28,169
indicated to me that in his interviews

635
00:27:35,779 --> 00:27:32,850
with Lieutenant Commander Jim slate Jim

636
00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:35,789
indicated that when the Jets take off

637
00:27:40,850 --> 00:27:37,590
from the aircraft carrier if they're

638
00:27:43,549 --> 00:27:40,860
carrying the targeting pod like the FLIR

639
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:43,559
system as soon as they get up in the air

640
00:27:47,180 --> 00:27:45,450
and they're turning that on getting

641
00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:47,190
ready for the mission getting ready to

642
00:27:51,889 --> 00:27:49,740
use it for instance they would begin

643
00:27:53,869 --> 00:27:51,899
recording right then when they're

644
00:27:55,609 --> 00:27:53,879
setting it up they don't want to wait

645
00:27:57,259 --> 00:27:55,619
until they're in the thick of it where

646
00:27:59,749 --> 00:27:57,269
they're you know in some type of

647
00:28:02,239 --> 00:27:59,759
engagement to try to like hit the record

648
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:02,249
button there's no reason to do it like

649
00:28:06,169 --> 00:28:04,110
that they start the recording when they

650
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:06,179
when they begin the mission it's normal

651
00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:08,490
procedure and I think that could be

652
00:28:14,299 --> 00:28:11,159
verified by other weapons system

653
00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:14,309
officers for instance but so they take

654
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,230
off and you can imagine that they're

655
00:28:21,049 --> 00:28:18,720
flying out sixty miles or something from

656
00:28:23,779 --> 00:28:21,059
the ship there's going to be a longer

657
00:28:27,049 --> 00:28:23,789
recording now where that went after the

658
00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:27,059
mission what happened to it we don't

659
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:30,919
know the the one that originally the one

660
00:28:34,909 --> 00:28:33,690
website that originally leaked it back

661
00:28:37,710 --> 00:28:34,919
in 2000

662
00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:37,720
there was an individual called the final

663
00:28:43,409 --> 00:28:41,440
theory his username he claims that he

664
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:43,419
had access to that film and the one

665
00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:45,850
that's the short one was leaked onto the

666
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:50,140
Internet researcher Isaac boy this week

667
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:51,850
has been communicating with this

668
00:28:58,289 --> 00:28:54,640
individual he changed his name to the

669
00:29:00,770 --> 00:28:58,299
final theory returns and Isaac thinks

670
00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:00,780
it's the same person and I believe that

671
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:04,919
he did say that there was a longer film

672
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,610
that they weren't able to play it for

673
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:10,960
some reason and that's what the

674
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:13,330
statement was but that there was but one

675
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:16,030
existed so who has seen it

676
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:18,880
aside from Jason I'm not sure but that's

677
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:21,520
the story yeah it sounds like an x-files

678
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:28,570
episode I wanted to ask you Dave could

679
00:29:35,149 --> 00:29:31,690
you please go into an interesting topic

680
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:35,159
here that I really deeply admire you for

681
00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:38,880
having the passion to do and that is

682
00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:41,860
starting a forum regarding the military

683
00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:45,220
police and pilots so that they have the

684
00:29:49,649 --> 00:29:47,380
ability to go ahead and network and talk

685
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:49,659
about their experiences regarding you

686
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:53,260
ApS is that correct yes that's something

687
00:29:58,380 --> 00:29:54,970
that I'm working on it's a work in

688
00:30:00,390 --> 00:29:58,390
progress if you go to my website

689
00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:00,400
the Nimitz encounters comm you'll see a

690
00:30:05,310 --> 00:30:02,620
page there that sort of describes the

691
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:05,320
inception of that we also started a

692
00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:07,690
Facebook page of the same name and it's

693
00:30:16,409 --> 00:30:11,350
called the military police and pilots

694
00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:16,419
UAP network and that the acronym for

695
00:30:21,779 --> 00:30:18,940
that would be the same those letters so

696
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:21,789
the reason that I thought this was a

697
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:25,450
good idea was when I got all of the the

698
00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:28,210
witnesses together when I began forming

699
00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:30,460
groups of the Princeton and Nimitz

700
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:33,340
witnesses I sort of witnessed this

701
00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:36,130
really remarkable thing occurring which

702
00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:38,980
was it it seemed to really help these

703
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:41,590
guys I mean they were struggling in some

704
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:44,710
cases with this information they really

705
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,570
hadn't talked about it in many many

706
00:30:49,820 --> 00:30:48,000
years and

707
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:49,830
having other guys to talk about it with

708
00:30:55,490 --> 00:30:52,770
seeing sort of vindicating in a way that

709
00:30:57,470 --> 00:30:55,500
they didn't have to think that they were

710
00:31:00,200 --> 00:30:57,480
losing their minds and it didn't really

711
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,210
happen you know in some cases they were

712
00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:02,640
told this didn't happen back then you

713
00:31:07,460 --> 00:31:05,030
know forget about it sort of thing and

714
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:07,470
now being able to talk about it and

715
00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:10,020
having you know the courage to come

716
00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:12,870
forward I think was because other people

717
00:31:18,350 --> 00:31:16,590
had their backs and I was like this is

718
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:18,360
one of the best things of this whole

719
00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:21,630
case we should try to duplicate this and

720
00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:22,950
I looked out there to see if there was

721
00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:25,320
anything really formalized that was easy

722
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:27,630
to find for people that you know kind of

723
00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:29,100
one they didn't have to have a rapport

724
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:31,320
that perhaps they just wanted to talk to

725
00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:34,080
other about sad experiences and so on so

726
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:37,140
that's really kind of my initial reason

727
00:31:41,180 --> 00:31:38,820
for doing this and I'm really hoping

728
00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:41,190
that it takes off there was a period of

729
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:43,460
time where the general consensus between

730
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:46,290
pilots if they had ever seen an

731
00:31:54,170 --> 00:31:49,530
anomalous object in the sky back in the

732
00:31:57,530 --> 00:31:54,180
day to not say anything about it

733
00:32:01,610 --> 00:31:57,540
publicly now they might talk to radar

734
00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:01,620
operators about it or report it sort of

735
00:32:06,770 --> 00:32:05,220
quietly but it never went beyond a

736
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:06,780
circle of people

737
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:09,600
isn't that correct and nowadays it seems

738
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:11,940
to be a little bit better in the respect

739
00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:15,750
that if pilots see anomalous objects

740
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:17,880
they're more likely to talk about it

741
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:18,960
than ever before

742
00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:23,010
is that right I hope so we've learned

743
00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:25,080
that the US Navy has sort of been

744
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:28,020
putting in some new guidelines for Navy

745
00:32:32,930 --> 00:32:31,410
pilots to report unidentified objects

746
00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:32,940
for instance I know that there were some

747
00:32:37,910 --> 00:32:36,150
briefings in Washington that we're

748
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:37,920
dealing with that and from my

749
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:40,050
understanding that those new policies

750
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:43,110
have actually been implemented I hope so

751
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,050
you know as far as civilian pilots you

752
00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:48,960
know the conversation needs to continue

753
00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:51,480
I think there's still stigma attached to

754
00:32:57,050 --> 00:32:54,750
it you know it's your career and

755
00:33:00,740 --> 00:32:57,060
reporting this stuff can have negative

756
00:33:03,530 --> 00:33:00,750
ramifications for somebody that you know

757
00:33:05,690 --> 00:33:03,540
a commercial pilot at one of the major

758
00:33:07,790 --> 00:33:05,700
airlines for instance you might not

759
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:07,800
report something because of the stigma

760
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:10,050
and I hope that that does change as we

761
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:12,720
move forward I also wanted to ask you a

762
00:33:18,260 --> 00:33:15,930
question about that what good does it do

763
00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:18,270
the pilots to say anything at all really

764
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:20,760
I mean if they're put in a position

765
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:23,130
where they're being scrutinized possibly

766
00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:26,010
heavily by the public what is the point

767
00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:28,500
of them saying anything if they have

768
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,540
witnessed any kind of anomalous activity

769
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:33,360
in the skies well you're absolutely

770
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:36,270
right number one they might think about

771
00:33:39,410 --> 00:33:38,190
it for a while take a day or two to

772
00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:39,420
think they don't report it right away

773
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:42,600
and they they would play it out and say

774
00:33:48,410 --> 00:33:45,690
what good is it gonna do what is gonna

775
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:48,420
happen if I report this and really I

776
00:33:54,020 --> 00:33:51,570
don't know a bet a positive benefit for

777
00:33:56,570 --> 00:33:54,030
the pilot you know I mean especially if

778
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:56,580
it's just one guy or something you know

779
00:34:01,610 --> 00:33:58,650
I can think of a lot of negative things

780
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:01,620
so I think that it's way underreported I

781
00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:04,170
think that there's probably significant

782
00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:06,630
events that have not been reported yeah

783
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:09,600
I think the cons outweigh the pros in

784
00:34:14,690 --> 00:34:12,330
that respect so it's interesting that

785
00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:14,700
you ApS are becoming more mainstream

786
00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:16,919
regarding the news so hopefully that

787
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:19,590
will still help become an impetus for

788
00:34:25,340 --> 00:34:22,730
pilots to report and it will be more

789
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:25,350
commonplace for that to happen if they

790
00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:28,169
see an anomalous object in the sky that

791
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:30,600
they cannot explain Dave do you think

792
00:34:35,540 --> 00:34:32,760
what the anomalous objects these pilots

793
00:34:39,889 --> 00:34:35,550
saw was derive from et technology or was

794
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:39,899
it man-made I go I'm usually on the

795
00:34:46,490 --> 00:34:42,090
fence about that I always say I don't

796
00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:46,500
know I really don't know on one day I

797
00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:49,950
might be on the side of wow this is like

798
00:34:58,910 --> 00:34:54,750
some black super you know black aircraft

799
00:35:03,950 --> 00:34:58,920
project special access area 51 you know

800
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:03,960
I I have trouble linking Bob lazarre's

801
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,130
you know sports model with this tic-tac

802
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:11,040
I mean I don't know I I'm just not gonna

803
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:12,570
go there but you

804
00:35:17,780 --> 00:35:15,170
could it be some other type of

805
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:17,790
intelligence that were unaware of you

806
00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:20,730
know maybe is it related to the ocean

807
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:22,740
I mean 95 percent of the ocean is

808
00:35:27,350 --> 00:35:25,050
unexplored and there's some deep ocean

809
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:27,360
you know even out there you know it's

810
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:30,960
pretty deep the they seem to you know

811
00:35:36,130 --> 00:35:32,760
from all the reports that I've gotten

812
00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:36,140
over the years they seem to have some

813
00:35:40,010 --> 00:35:38,520
under the water and coming out of the

814
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:40,020
water there's a lot of reports of that

815
00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:44,220
so that's quite interesting idea now on

816
00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:47,820
the flip side the the man-made man-made

817
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:50,820
stuff I could possibly see that if you

818
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:54,240
would erase the physics-defying part of

819
00:35:59,890 --> 00:35:57,330
it the antigravity part of it I just

820
00:36:03,370 --> 00:35:59,900
don't know if we have anti-gravity

821
00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:03,380
physics bending space-time bubbles

822
00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:07,800
metric engineered craft that can go you

823
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:10,080
know tens of thousands of miles an hour

824
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:12,090
or hundreds of thousands miles or and

825
00:36:16,580 --> 00:36:14,400
stop instantly and go the other

826
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:16,590
direction I mean I mean if we have that

827
00:36:21,730 --> 00:36:18,810
technology we should be living in a

828
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:21,740
utopian society with like you know

829
00:36:27,890 --> 00:36:25,530
hovercrafts in green energy and a little

830
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,900
cube that powers a city you know we

831
00:36:33,020 --> 00:36:29,520
wouldn't need to be polluting our

832
00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:33,030
environment with gas combustion turbine

833
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,950
engines you know and the whole thing we

834
00:36:39,410 --> 00:36:36,720
would have solved a lot of that problem

835
00:36:41,390 --> 00:36:39,420
so I think I'm like do we really have

836
00:36:43,790 --> 00:36:41,400
that if we do I mean come on it's time

837
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:43,800
to give it to us you know right release

838
00:36:48,020 --> 00:36:46,530
that technology yes agreed by the way

839
00:36:50,570 --> 00:36:48,030
one of the topics you mentioned

840
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,580
regarding us so possible us no activity

841
00:36:55,610 --> 00:36:52,880
I do have a question from Tom Whitmore

842
00:36:57,890 --> 00:36:55,620
regarding that a little bit later on so

843
00:37:01,420 --> 00:36:57,900
wanted to ask you there have been some

844
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:01,430
DARPA drone projects circulating lately

845
00:37:06,650 --> 00:37:04,650
are there are those the drones that the

846
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:06,660
pot do you think they're drones that the

847
00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:10,680
pilot saw in other words well you know I

848
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:13,350
some people have sent me a lot of links

849
00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:18,050
lately to these both underwater drones

850
00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:21,030
you know vehicles and you know what they

851
00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:24,150
say is DARPA is trying to develop these

852
00:37:28,190 --> 00:37:25,950
systems that would be

853
00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:28,200
underwater vehicle that would go to a

854
00:37:33,230 --> 00:37:30,750
location it would surface and deploy

855
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,240
drones you know for surveillance or

856
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,280
whatever and I believe that that stuff

857
00:37:40,070 --> 00:37:37,440
is gonna really come true now again I

858
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:40,080
could see something like that for

859
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:43,050
intelligence gathering or even to as

860
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:46,530
decoys to confuse say an enemy Air Force

861
00:37:53,150 --> 00:37:49,110
or something but again we still haven't

862
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,160
seen this gravity-defying hypersonic

863
00:37:58,370 --> 00:37:55,920
drones drones travel slow

864
00:38:02,030 --> 00:37:58,380
they have propellers you know they have

865
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:02,040
like most drones have rotors and so on

866
00:38:08,060 --> 00:38:05,490
they don't go 24,000 miles an hour so

867
00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:08,070
and they there's very few that can go

868
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:11,820
from the air underwater so you know I

869
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:14,040
have I believe that that technology is

870
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:15,330
there I just don't think that that's

871
00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:18,530
what we're seeing now as far as

872
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:21,990
anomalous undersea objects USO is for

873
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:26,210
instance I believe that that is true and

874
00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:28,890
just recently I was contacted by a

875
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:32,040
Submariner on a US Navy Submariner now I

876
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:34,650
checked I mean vetted the guy I believe

877
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:36,510
him he's saying that he served you know

878
00:38:38,660 --> 00:38:37,950
he gave me the name of the sub that he

879
00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:38,670
served aboard

880
00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:43,560
he said that they do report under USO

881
00:38:48,860 --> 00:38:46,350
contacts that he said he's even

882
00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:48,870
witnessed them going in excess of 500

883
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:52,940
knots underwater he said it happens so

884
00:38:58,820 --> 00:38:55,560
you know I believe it yeah very good

885
00:39:00,920 --> 00:38:58,830
points thank you I wanted to ask you on

886
00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:00,930
May 26 the New York Times broke the

887
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,590
story on the USS Roosevelt in 2015 and

888
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,720
that was the same day you released the

889
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:08,640
latest in myths movie what do you think

890
00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:13,200
about that article Dave well you know in

891
00:39:18,010 --> 00:39:15,540
some ways I feel vindicated because it's

892
00:39:21,110 --> 00:39:18,020
you if you guys remember back in

893
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:21,120
November of 2018 when we first came out

894
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,060
with the film at the end of the film we

895
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:26,880
show a picture of the gimbal film and

896
00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:29,190
there's a little graphic there and the

897
00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:31,470
narrator says you know this is the

898
00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:35,430
gimbal film captured by the crew the air

899
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:38,820
crews on the USS Roosevelt

900
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:41,160
and on the screen it says estimated date

901
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:44,910
of January 26 2015 that information

902
00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:46,980
wasn't out in the public and a small

903
00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:49,830
core group of researchers including on

904
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,230
Christoph Spitzer out of France and

905
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:54,960
Keith pastor field out of Australia and

906
00:40:02,690 --> 00:39:58,400
myself had been for months kind of

907
00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:02,700
bantering back and forth and Christophe

908
00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:04,320
had done this document where he put all

909
00:40:09,830 --> 00:40:06,750
this information that had information

910
00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:09,840
about the wind at 20,000 feet that the

911
00:40:15,020 --> 00:40:13,140
pilots reported as being 120 knots out

912
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:15,030
of the West they put together

913
00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:17,280
information about commercial airline

914
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:19,560
flights that were diverted around the

915
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:23,040
coast of Florida in in that month they

916
00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:24,930
looked at weather patterns in frontal

917
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:28,520
patterns that would show clouds that had

918
00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:31,170
similar patterns to what we saw in the

919
00:40:37,610 --> 00:40:34,350
gimbal at that altitude I got the the

920
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:37,620
final thing was I got the foyers for the

921
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:40,800
USS Normandy which is the it's basically

922
00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:43,650
like the USS Princeton but for the

923
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:46,020
Roosevelt it's the cruiser the cruiser

924
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:48,990
you know is right with the aircraft

925
00:40:54,290 --> 00:40:52,050
carrier so we had this cruiser out there

926
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:54,300
we could track where it was in the ocean

927
00:41:00,110 --> 00:40:57,570
in January and putting it together we

928
00:41:01,970 --> 00:41:00,120
kind of figured out where the aircraft

929
00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:01,980
carrier was we figured out what the

930
00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:04,320
aircrew was that was flying off there we

931
00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:08,070
even had all the names so after the the

932
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,500
article came out in The Times I went

933
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:12,720
back to our documents and I looked at

934
00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:15,090
the names and like oh there's like

935
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:17,400
lieutenant Aucoin yep we had him we just

936
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,370
we hadn't gotten to the point of trying

937
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:22,800
to go out and contact all these guys you

938
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:24,810
know it's kind of actually hard you know

939
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:26,730
you've called like a pilot and say hey

940
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:28,950
I'm a UFO researcher you can we talk to

941
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:31,710
you yeah they could either click you

942
00:41:38,090 --> 00:41:35,370
know but it was indicating a sense that

943
00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:38,100
they had this information from to the

944
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:41,550
stars from a tip apparently that's where

945
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:43,890
to the stars got it we sell the Sandow

946
00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:46,260
and so on we already had it and we were

947
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:49,320
right that's incredible I wanted to move

948
00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:51,330
on to a few of frank stahl ters

949
00:41:54,170 --> 00:41:52,470
questions

950
00:41:56,210 --> 00:41:54,180
you may have already answered some of

951
00:41:59,240 --> 00:41:56,220
these so we'll just go ahead and skip

952
00:42:01,819 --> 00:41:59,250
over those if he already if I already

953
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:01,829
asked you those questions one of the

954
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:04,890
question says has the finished nimitz

955
00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:06,180
encounter movie exceeded your

956
00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:09,720
expectations going in oh yeah absolutely

957
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:13,800
you know I mean I'm up to 1.8 knowing

958
00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:17,280
views on YouTube this week of you know I

959
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:19,560
mean I never expected it to be that

960
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:23,040
popular I've I've received you know

961
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:26,250
calls from around the world and that's

962
00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:29,280
that's wild 1.8 million did you say that

963
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:32,520
yeah 1.8 million this week Wow okay

964
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:34,770
would like to also ask you the film

965
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:37,490
succeeds both in content and technically

966
00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:40,530
CGI's effects slash stock footage at

967
00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:42,300
what point did you realize both these

968
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:43,980
aspects of the film's were going to be

969
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:45,170
great

970
00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:50,730
what it was finished yeah when I started

971
00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:53,390
I wasn't too sure I I thought you know

972
00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:55,859
me you know that's what happens a lot of

973
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:57,900
times in this production world it's like

974
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:00,480
you start out unsure especially with CGI

975
00:43:06,530 --> 00:43:02,310
that it might look cheesy

976
00:43:09,050 --> 00:43:06,540
it might look hokey and kind of fake but

977
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,060
the technology is remarkable you know it

978
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:11,280
really is and there are certain scenes

979
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:12,930
in there to people I you know I read the

980
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:14,490
comments they really think it's real and

981
00:43:18,260 --> 00:43:16,530
these are people that are on computers

982
00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:18,270
and they're like how did you get a shot

983
00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:19,740
of the tic-tac you know or something in

984
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:21,630
like you know they really thought it was

985
00:43:26,329 --> 00:43:25,170
the real video because the CGI was kind

986
00:43:29,780 --> 00:43:26,339
of read it's a photo what they call a

987
00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:29,790
photorealistic and they thought that I

988
00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:31,140
had somehow mean they're like you know

989
00:43:35,809 --> 00:43:33,720
how did you get the the radio recordings

990
00:43:37,579 --> 00:43:35,819
of course I have to preface that and say

991
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:37,589
yeah but there's like a lot of other

992
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:39,510
comments or like that is the worst voice

993
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:43,890
acting I've ever heard in my life but

994
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:46,290
I'm like alright I'm gonna tell Nancy my

995
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:49,560
wife that somebody's criticizing her who

996
00:43:57,530 --> 00:43:53,760
you know I always doing I can do I can

997
00:44:00,579 --> 00:43:57,540
do my what's one of the lines way he

998
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:00,589
says like hey are you guys seeing this

999
00:44:11,220 --> 00:44:08,550
that's it just just curious do you have

1000
00:44:14,370 --> 00:44:11,230
a moderator who takes care of the if

1001
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:14,380
there's 1.8 million views the thousands

1002
00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:16,390
upon thousands of comments or do you

1003
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:23,560
just let them have at it well sometime I

1004
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:26,890
mean I have fun with it i insult a lot

1005
00:44:31,290 --> 00:44:29,530
of people believe me I mean because you

1006
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:31,300
know how they troll you on YouTube then

1007
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:33,760
for that I I sometimes will sit down

1008
00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:35,710
there at night spend a couple hours just

1009
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:39,630
answering every one of those that's

1010
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:41,710
incredible amount of devotion on your

1011
00:44:46,530 --> 00:44:44,650
part day okay we're still talking about

1012
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:46,540
Frank here regarding his questions how

1013
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:49,330
much have you used cinema4d before this

1014
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:50,890
film and what were the biggest

1015
00:44:56,610 --> 00:44:52,210
challenges in using it and getting

1016
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:56,620
things right I've been using it for a

1017
00:45:00,960 --> 00:44:58,450
long time I mean it's part of my

1018
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:00,970
production arsenal so you know my whole

1019
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:04,240
career basically I I was always on on

1020
00:45:12,930 --> 00:45:08,560
mats on now the challenges I think of

1021
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:12,940
doing realistic looking stuff is the

1022
00:45:18,270 --> 00:45:15,310
time invested in the rendering that

1023
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:18,280
would be what I would say the longer

1024
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:20,290
that the computer generates one frame

1025
00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:23,230
the better it looks so if I could if I

1026
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:26,230
had forever if I had you know a render

1027
00:45:31,650 --> 00:45:29,050
farm they call it with 20 you know

1028
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:31,660
computers churning at the same time I

1029
00:45:36,180 --> 00:45:33,550
could do more I didn't have that

1030
00:45:38,190 --> 00:45:36,190
resource and I had to like you know dumb

1031
00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:38,200
it down a little bit basically the

1032
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:41,140
quality wise you know Hollywood feature

1033
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:44,380
may use those types of processing power

1034
00:45:49,530 --> 00:45:46,770
to do really high-end looking

1035
00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:49,540
photorealistic stuff but I was able to

1036
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:52,840
cut corners and you know I it did take

1037
00:45:56,580 --> 00:45:54,850
me about six months to do all the

1038
00:45:58,650 --> 00:45:56,590
different stuff so that's the challenge

1039
00:46:01,110 --> 00:45:58,660
it's just the amount of time it takes to

1040
00:46:04,170 --> 00:46:01,120
crank out say five seconds of animation

1041
00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:04,180
might take 10 hours of computing power

1042
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:07,900
I understood if you had an unlimited

1043
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:10,480
budget what are some of the things you

1044
00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:12,310
would like to have done in the film but

1045
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:14,020
could not

1046
00:46:20,830 --> 00:46:17,570
well number one I wouldn't have to use

1047
00:46:22,930 --> 00:46:20,840
synthetic actors that was the one thing

1048
00:46:26,110 --> 00:46:22,940
that I didn't like doing but I didn't

1049
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:26,120
have a choice that means the in in

1050
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:29,030
cockpit views I would really love to I

1051
00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:33,110
would really love to see you know people

1052
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:34,750
in their flight suits with helmets

1053
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:37,310
oxygen masks inside you know whether

1054
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,110
it's green screen or whatever but inside

1055
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:40,880
a cockpit were you actually are doing

1056
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:44,810
these you know actors acting out the

1057
00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:46,790
scenes which would be so much more

1058
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,500
powerful and I of course would have

1059
00:46:53,230 --> 00:46:50,720
really loved to get access to the

1060
00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:53,240
vessels the Navy vessels where you know

1061
00:46:57,370 --> 00:46:55,550
you commissioned the Navy and say we

1062
00:46:58,750 --> 00:46:57,380
want to use one of your vessels that's

1063
00:47:00,250 --> 00:46:58,760
sitting in port or something like that

1064
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:00,260
to go on and do some of these

1065
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,450
recreations I mean those are the only

1066
00:47:07,090 --> 00:47:04,160
things that I I wish I could have done

1067
00:47:08,310 --> 00:47:07,100
that there was just no budget to do so

1068
00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:08,320
right

1069
00:47:13,780 --> 00:47:11,300
still Frank's questions can you talk a

1070
00:47:16,030 --> 00:47:13,790
little bit about the first on ship and

1071
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:16,040
nimitz encounter witness that came

1072
00:47:23,140 --> 00:47:18,170
forward and how did you handle all of

1073
00:47:26,380 --> 00:47:23,150
that you know i think that going back to

1074
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:26,390
the very beginning you know in 2018 when

1075
00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:28,730
when this first started happening you

1076
00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:31,100
know commander framework commander slate

1077
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:35,780
were all on TV I tried to contact all of

1078
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:37,310
them in the beginning I mean that's they

1079
00:47:42,580 --> 00:47:38,800
were the only ones that we knew about

1080
00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:42,590
commander slate was polite you know when

1081
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:44,390
I got I finally he was the only pilot I

1082
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:46,130
got a hold of he was really polite and

1083
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:50,690
he seemed enthusiastic about talking to

1084
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:52,730
me and he said he would answer any

1085
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:55,610
questions unfortunately the first

1086
00:47:59,020 --> 00:47:56,930
question I asked him it was about two

1087
00:48:01,720 --> 00:47:59,030
female pilot and I think that was a big

1088
00:48:03,490 --> 00:48:01,730
mistake as I said before because that

1089
00:48:05,650 --> 00:48:03,500
was like the last question he ever asked

1090
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:05,660
King he ended up saying that he was busy

1091
00:48:11,620 --> 00:48:07,970
working on contract on contracts and

1092
00:48:13,570 --> 00:48:11,630
ending the conversation so I never got

1093
00:48:15,970 --> 00:48:13,580
any more without it and I've learned a

1094
00:48:19,420 --> 00:48:15,980
lot since then that maybe you should you

1095
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:19,430
know kind of do softball questions with

1096
00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:21,290
some of these guys first and don't go

1097
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:24,230
for the jugular or whatever so that I

1098
00:48:27,490 --> 00:48:26,510
learned a lot you know some of the other

1099
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:27,500
guys that came for

1100
00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:30,170
have been wonderful just the opposite

1101
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:31,310
that are willing to answer any questions

1102
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:34,490
and really feel I think humbled by the

1103
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:36,110
experience and you know that would be

1104
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:38,210
the guys that have been on the show and

1105
00:48:44,050 --> 00:48:41,630
like Kevin and so on so that's wonderful

1106
00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:44,060
have any fakers try to get through your

1107
00:48:50,650 --> 00:48:45,830
vetting process and how did you figure

1108
00:48:53,860 --> 00:48:50,660
them out no one's gotten through I get a

1109
00:48:57,610 --> 00:48:53,870
lot of emails you know hundreds and

1110
00:49:00,190 --> 00:48:57,620
hundreds of emails and I think that you

1111
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:00,200
know there are some people that want to

1112
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:02,330
sort of test the defenses or something

1113
00:49:07,660 --> 00:49:04,970
or they're just you know pranking or

1114
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:07,670
whatever but no one I mean even in the

1115
00:49:11,950 --> 00:49:09,920
very beginning if someone said I was I

1116
00:49:13,660 --> 00:49:11,960
was on the ship and then I would ask a

1117
00:49:15,790 --> 00:49:13,670
few questions I'd never hear from them

1118
00:49:18,370 --> 00:49:15,800
again whether they really were several

1119
00:49:22,510 --> 00:49:18,380
people claimed that they were you know

1120
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:22,520
for instance in Patrick squadron and he

1121
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:25,610
could very quickly you know determine

1122
00:49:29,170 --> 00:49:27,920
that they were not they you know that

1123
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:29,180
person that would just like kind of

1124
00:49:34,180 --> 00:49:32,570
disappear so so far you know as far as

1125
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,190
I'm concerned the people that we have

1126
00:49:38,980 --> 00:49:37,040
are who they say they are understood

1127
00:49:42,250 --> 00:49:38,990
this is the last question from Frank

1128
00:49:44,650 --> 00:49:42,260
stalter are the other nimitz encounter

1129
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:44,660
witnesses helping in any vetting process

1130
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:46,490
oh this is the second to the last

1131
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:48,770
question I apologize I mean ask again

1132
00:49:56,170 --> 00:49:52,610
are the other nimitz encounter witnesses

1133
00:49:58,570 --> 00:49:56,180
helping in any vetting process yeah I

1134
00:50:02,650 --> 00:49:58,580
mean as I just said you know I think

1135
00:50:04,810 --> 00:50:02,660
that when I'm unsure and I want somebody

1136
00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:04,820
that has experienced sort of on the

1137
00:50:10,270 --> 00:50:07,910
inside that can talk the talk

1138
00:50:12,460 --> 00:50:10,280
they are gonna know way before me if

1139
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:12,470
this person who says he had a specific

1140
00:50:21,220 --> 00:50:16,720
job on the ship is who he said he he is

1141
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:21,230
so as soon as I get that contact going I

1142
00:50:25,810 --> 00:50:23,210
may bring one of the men to help me bet

1143
00:50:28,990 --> 00:50:25,820
the witness understood this is the last

1144
00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:29,000
question from Frank Stoll term what is

1145
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:30,800
the best thing to have happened to you

1146
00:50:39,210 --> 00:50:34,690
since starting this project Dave

1147
00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:39,220
I think the best thing is all the

1148
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:43,630
friends that I made I don't think that I

1149
00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:46,770
ever expected to have this group of

1150
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:49,960
former Navy veterans that I consider my

1151
00:50:54,750 --> 00:50:52,450
good friends and you know even one of

1152
00:50:56,550 --> 00:50:54,760
them said that I'm their honorary

1153
00:50:59,340 --> 00:50:56,560
brother because they all call each other

1154
00:51:00,690 --> 00:50:59,350
brothers and I think that they just

1155
00:51:03,210 --> 00:51:00,700
appreciate the fact that I've been

1156
00:51:05,370 --> 00:51:03,220
honest and forthright with them and

1157
00:51:08,490 --> 00:51:05,380
everything that I've tried to do I've

1158
00:51:11,630 --> 00:51:08,500
been trying to maintain that those

1159
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:11,640
ethics and so on and Trust basically and

1160
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:13,990
that's kind of the best thing it's just

1161
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:16,750
having these new friends one short

1162
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:18,640
question before I begin some serious

1163
00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:20,130
other questions

1164
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:22,150
not that Frank's questions weren't

1165
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:23,530
serious by the way he's gonna laugh when

1166
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:26,890
he hears that one short question I have

1167
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:29,650
for you is how many hours how many

1168
00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:32,130
hundreds of hours did it take for you

1169
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:36,580
from the very point of the inception of

1170
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:38,650
the Nimitz Encounter project no matter

1171
00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:41,110
how many different times you have remade

1172
00:51:50,370 --> 00:51:44,440
this documentary up until today have you

1173
00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:50,380
invested on this project you know I try

1174
00:51:55,230 --> 00:51:52,270
to avoid thinking about that because if

1175
00:51:59,100 --> 00:51:55,240
I realize it I would probably think man

1176
00:52:01,920 --> 00:51:59,110
I'm working cheap I should be paying

1177
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:01,930
myself a lot more because I don't have

1178
00:52:07,070 --> 00:52:04,720
too much to show for that you know but I

1179
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:07,080
mean I started working at it you know

1180
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:12,400
January 2018 and you know I finished

1181
00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:15,370
like the last cut I'm still like working

1182
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:17,230
on it a little but the last one was you

1183
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:21,010
know in April of this year so how many

1184
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:21,490
months now

1185
00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:24,310
I mean back when I was really cranking

1186
00:52:29,370 --> 00:52:26,710
away at it I was spending you know

1187
00:52:32,070 --> 00:52:29,380
thousands of hours I know I did I never

1188
00:52:34,530 --> 00:52:32,080
kept a time sheet on it but there's a

1189
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:34,540
lot of hours in there so just to be more

1190
00:52:39,330 --> 00:52:36,850
direct in my question you could probably

1191
00:52:42,780 --> 00:52:39,340
do a little forensic research on your

1192
00:52:45,809 --> 00:52:42,790
computers and add up at that time

1193
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:45,819
because it should be logged there right

1194
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:48,609
yeah okay I could yeah you probably

1195
00:52:52,890 --> 00:52:50,559
could do that okay on to another

1196
00:52:54,809 --> 00:52:52,900
question you and a few key people who

1197
00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:54,819
have the same interests who have a long

1198
00:52:58,650 --> 00:52:56,680
history together when did you both

1199
00:53:02,219 --> 00:52:58,660
connect and start to share a common

1200
00:53:04,709 --> 00:53:02,229
interest in UFOs and I I didn't

1201
00:53:08,969 --> 00:53:04,719
understand that one like me and who you

1202
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:08,979
and certain people that might be close

1203
00:53:13,410 --> 00:53:10,690
to you regarding the immense encounter

1204
00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:13,420
project who have the same interests as

1205
00:53:17,849 --> 00:53:16,180
you regarding having a long friendship a

1206
00:53:19,949 --> 00:53:17,859
long history of a friendship together

1207
00:53:22,289 --> 00:53:19,959
when did you all connect and start to

1208
00:53:24,779 --> 00:53:22,299
share a common interest in UFOs do you

1209
00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:24,789
have a long friendship with anybody in

1210
00:53:29,939 --> 00:53:27,369
the UFO community who has been with you

1211
00:53:33,439 --> 00:53:29,949
from the very beginning of the Nimitz

1212
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:33,449
encounter project supported yeah I mean

1213
00:53:38,009 --> 00:53:36,190
it's an interesting question because you

1214
00:53:41,999 --> 00:53:38,019
know in in our lives I think that we

1215
00:53:44,849 --> 00:53:42,009
have certain synchronicities that happen

1216
00:53:46,829 --> 00:53:44,859
and when you look back across your life

1217
00:53:48,269 --> 00:53:46,839
you might have people that come in and

1218
00:53:52,499 --> 00:53:48,279
out of your life you know one of the

1219
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:52,509
people that is in my spear right now and

1220
00:53:57,930 --> 00:53:53,890
basically is one of the administrators

1221
00:54:00,599 --> 00:53:57,940
of the group called the a tip group on

1222
00:54:05,249 --> 00:54:00,609
Facebook that I'm in the ministry his

1223
00:54:09,930 --> 00:54:05,259
name his name is Joel Mercia and he has

1224
00:54:12,839 --> 00:54:09,940
a blog called you know UFO Joe so you

1225
00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:12,849
know I've known him for decades we

1226
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:14,920
basically worked in television back in

1227
00:54:20,819 --> 00:54:18,640
the 90s when I first came to Florida and

1228
00:54:25,469 --> 00:54:20,829
I didn't know at that time he had an

1229
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:25,479
interest in UFOs you know other than you

1230
00:54:30,269 --> 00:54:26,529
know in passing

1231
00:54:33,839 --> 00:54:30,279
later on I ran into him in Gulf Breeze

1232
00:54:36,689 --> 00:54:33,849
at a UFO conference up there and kind of

1233
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:36,699
knew Wow and he was doing a newsletter

1234
00:54:40,979 --> 00:54:39,190
at that time as well so I became

1235
00:54:44,699 --> 00:54:40,989
interested in that subscribed to his

1236
00:54:47,219 --> 00:54:44,709
newsletter and so on he went on to be

1237
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:47,229
the DP at the History Channel's Pawn

1238
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:49,390
Stars show for many many years and was

1239
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:52,569
out in Vegas and still out there so he

1240
00:54:57,599 --> 00:54:55,930
came kind of came back into into it you

1241
00:54:59,640 --> 00:54:57,609
know during the whole Nimitz thing in

1242
00:55:02,760 --> 00:54:59,650
the whole two stars thing

1243
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:02,770
and so we kind of contacted each other

1244
00:55:07,170 --> 00:55:04,990
and you know he's an admitted my group

1245
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:07,180
and we communicate on the almost daily

1246
00:55:14,940 --> 00:55:11,110
basis we we sort of bounce stuff off

1247
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:14,950
each other you know and he was there

1248
00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:16,450
when I was talking about the female

1249
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:18,790
pilot and people were saying I was crazy

1250
00:55:22,620 --> 00:55:21,130
kind of giving me advice so there are

1251
00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:22,630
people like that I think for all of us

1252
00:55:27,630 --> 00:55:24,460
that have been around and you're like

1253
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:27,640
wow that was unrelated to UFOs back in

1254
00:55:32,850 --> 00:55:29,890
the 90s but now he's in minima occur in

1255
00:55:35,570 --> 00:55:32,860
a minister in like group completely

1256
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:35,580
unrelated to television in a way

1257
00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:39,310
understood some of these questions are

1258
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:43,270
from when we put this way a high profile

1259
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:46,090
person in the UFO community or I will

1260
00:55:50,970 --> 00:55:48,250
not name now if you've already answered

1261
00:55:55,050 --> 00:55:50,980
the question just let me know and we'll

1262
00:55:56,970 --> 00:55:55,060
move on to the next one you recently ran

1263
00:55:59,010 --> 00:55:56,980
into some problems with commander flavor

1264
00:56:01,110 --> 00:55:59,020
over the use of his image in the video I

1265
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:01,120
believe he not only approved I believe

1266
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:03,370
he only approved this forty TSA was any

1267
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:05,290
civil action taken against you for this

1268
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,930
I hope not your work was far better than

1269
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:09,520
the renderings of the History Channel's

1270
00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:12,130
episode unidentified you already covered

1271
00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:15,790
that isn't that corrected yeah no I mean

1272
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:19,270
no action basically as I said he asked

1273
00:56:24,540 --> 00:56:22,210
for his interview to be taken out of the

1274
00:56:26,730 --> 00:56:24,550
film I just simply took his interview

1275
00:56:29,730 --> 00:56:26,740
out of the film that was what happened

1276
00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:29,740
so I understood again if there's any

1277
00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:31,750
questions you've all you feel you've

1278
00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:34,510
already answered just let me know this

1279
00:56:38,670 --> 00:56:36,940
is still from a high profile person in

1280
00:56:40,890 --> 00:56:38,680
the community that does not want to be

1281
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:40,900
named this this is a continuation of

1282
00:56:45,390 --> 00:56:43,390
their questions the Roosevelt case does

1283
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:45,400
not have the witness testimonies like

1284
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:49,330
the USS Nimitz had and scu the

1285
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:51,370
scientific coalition coalition for you

1286
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:54,640
ApS stated it has not seen enough data

1287
00:57:01,110 --> 00:56:57,610
and sequencing of events for the many

1288
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:01,120
instances of observations claimed the

1289
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:03,760
videos go fast and Gimbel lack essential

1290
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:05,770
data information and any assumptions

1291
00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:08,470
about such things as speed and what

1292
00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:10,780
transpired are insufficient to reach any

1293
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:11,630
conclusion

1294
00:57:16,750 --> 00:57:14,240
I do not anticipate another one of your

1295
00:57:20,830 --> 00:57:16,760
fine videos until you to get data is

1296
00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:20,840
this corrective yes absolutely

1297
00:57:27,420 --> 00:57:23,510
I mean right now we have witness

1298
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:27,430
testimony and we have some clear videos

1299
00:57:32,860 --> 00:57:30,530
but we don't have enough information at

1300
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:32,870
this point to really I mean if you're

1301
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:34,610
talking about a recreation like I did

1302
00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:37,840
with the the Nimitz there were multiple

1303
00:57:42,910 --> 00:57:40,100
documents that we could source from we

1304
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:42,920
had information from the radar ship you

1305
00:57:46,660 --> 00:57:44,960
know we had information from the pilots

1306
00:57:49,630 --> 00:57:46,670
we had information from the FLIR we had

1307
00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:49,640
all these all these testimonies and so

1308
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:53,030
on to create the story right now the USS

1309
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:55,280
Roosevelt we don't have that we have

1310
00:57:59,710 --> 00:57:57,770
some pieces and there's a lot of patch

1311
00:58:02,200 --> 00:57:59,720
works that are sort of blank at this

1312
00:58:04,750 --> 00:58:02,210
point so I mean maybe in the future I

1313
00:58:09,820 --> 00:58:04,760
really would love to do one based on the

1314
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:09,830
the Roosevelt stuff so we'll see I'll

1315
00:58:14,530 --> 00:58:11,690
let you know when his question stopped

1316
00:58:16,270 --> 00:58:14,540
just so you're aware I know that you had

1317
00:58:18,910 --> 00:58:16,280
a wonderful opportunity to be with the

1318
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:18,920
crew of the ships that must have been

1319
00:58:26,020 --> 00:58:21,110
very rewarding for you what was the most

1320
00:58:28,060 --> 00:58:26,030
rewarding about the Meetup you know

1321
00:58:30,220 --> 00:58:28,070
again I think that that was a good

1322
00:58:32,140 --> 00:58:30,230
question that I kind of covered I think

1323
00:58:35,140 --> 00:58:32,150
I would I would answer it the same way

1324
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:35,150
that you know just having the the

1325
00:58:40,930 --> 00:58:37,760
friendship basically of these guys and

1326
00:58:42,580 --> 00:58:40,940
being able to hang out with them and

1327
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:42,590
talk to them and get to know them you

1328
00:58:46,660 --> 00:58:44,450
know just as people not even as

1329
00:58:49,540 --> 00:58:46,670
witnesses really was something that was

1330
00:58:51,250 --> 00:58:49,550
unexpected and you know to me it was

1331
00:58:52,660 --> 00:58:51,260
probably one of the best things also

1332
00:58:57,010 --> 00:58:52,670
it's fair to say that you now have

1333
00:58:59,890 --> 00:58:57,020
friendships for life next question what

1334
00:59:05,320 --> 00:58:59,900
other videos have you done and are being

1335
00:59:07,330 --> 00:59:05,330
planned I am planning to at this point

1336
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:07,340
the next step for me I do plan on

1337
00:59:14,170 --> 00:59:11,210
releasing the interviews that each of

1338
00:59:16,570 --> 00:59:14,180
the witnesses provided to me I couldn't

1339
00:59:18,340 --> 00:59:16,580
use everything on the film itself so

1340
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:18,350
there's other content in those

1341
00:59:22,990 --> 00:59:19,430
interviews and I'm going to make those

1342
00:59:25,269 --> 00:59:23,000
available to everybody the the other

1343
00:59:27,509 --> 00:59:25,279
thing that I'm doing is I'm working with

1344
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:27,519
a wonderful guy that's volunteer

1345
00:59:33,039 --> 00:59:30,710
volunteering his time to help do audio

1346
00:59:34,779 --> 00:59:33,049
sweetening on the program there's you

1347
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:34,789
know there's some issues with the audio

1348
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,089
track but it's simply because it's a

1349
00:59:42,910 --> 00:59:40,400
low-budget process and I didn't have the

1350
00:59:44,739 --> 00:59:42,920
time and he's taking the time it says

1351
00:59:47,620 --> 00:59:44,749
that's what he's doing that for free so

1352
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:47,630
I really appreciate that and you know

1353
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:49,249
once that comes out I'll make sure I

1354
00:59:54,609 --> 00:59:50,960
talk about it so that's the next kind of

1355
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:54,619
part of this documentary what is your

1356
01:00:01,839 --> 00:59:56,690
long-term goals or objectives with the

1357
01:00:05,019 --> 01:00:01,849
UFO subtractor you know right now for me

1358
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:05,029
it's date day today again I do hope to

1359
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:07,249
form that Network that's a long-term

1360
01:00:11,380 --> 01:00:09,920
goal the other goals is to continue

1361
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:11,390
looking at some of the cases that are

1362
01:00:16,269 --> 01:00:13,609
emerging emerging at this point the

1363
01:00:17,979 --> 01:00:16,279
Roosevelt case is still emerging trying

1364
01:00:21,940 --> 01:00:17,989
to connect the dots try to find more

1365
01:00:23,979 --> 01:00:21,950
information to FOIA as you know we're

1366
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:23,989
hoping that this continues that more and

1367
01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:26,089
more this comes forward and that the

1368
01:00:31,299 --> 01:00:28,160
public is more accepting of it the news

1369
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:31,309
media and so on do you have any reason

1370
01:00:35,380 --> 01:00:33,650
to believe that we will all know more

1371
01:00:37,329 --> 01:00:35,390
about the encounters with the military

1372
01:00:39,069 --> 01:00:37,339
or do you see this as being classified

1373
01:00:44,170 --> 01:00:39,079
and the public getting fed the

1374
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:44,180
information they want to feed us it

1375
01:00:49,299 --> 01:00:46,609
always seems like it's only what they

1376
01:00:52,059 --> 01:00:49,309
want to feed us and of course you know

1377
01:00:54,249 --> 01:00:52,069
in the case of be a tip in Lewis

1378
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,259
elizondo's resignation and the formation

1379
01:00:59,470 --> 01:00:56,720
of to the stars it seems kind of like an

1380
01:01:03,039 --> 01:00:59,480
anomaly in itself it doesn't seem like

1381
01:01:05,410 --> 01:01:03,049
the normal status quo you know even with

1382
01:01:09,009 --> 01:01:05,420
the civilian research efforts such as

1383
01:01:11,620 --> 01:01:09,019
you know bass with Robert Bigelow and in

1384
01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:11,630
that group all of that information that

1385
01:01:17,019 --> 01:01:14,960
went into that studies is not available

1386
01:01:20,289 --> 01:01:17,029
to anybody else it doesn't benefit the

1387
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:20,299
public I would like to see more of this

1388
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:24,319
go into the academic world like the SCU

1389
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:27,410
you know the scientific coalition you ap

1390
01:01:33,999 --> 01:01:31,730
study and I think that that if Congress

1391
01:01:36,430 --> 01:01:34,009
can get involved and they can do

1392
01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:36,440
briefings and so on that funding should

1393
01:01:40,010 --> 01:01:38,220
be allocated not only

1394
01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:40,020
to the military and defense budgets but

1395
01:01:44,570 --> 01:01:43,140
to academic research grants because we

1396
01:01:46,849 --> 01:01:44,580
need to figure this out we don't just

1397
01:01:49,250 --> 01:01:46,859
need to build weapon systems to defend

1398
01:01:52,310 --> 01:01:49,260
against it I mean that's one way of

1399
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:52,320
thinking but why not why not put money

1400
01:01:56,839 --> 01:01:55,050
into scientific study of it there's a

1401
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:56,849
lot of really good minds out there that

1402
01:02:03,410 --> 01:02:00,000
might be able to figure this out this is

1403
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:03,420
the last one reporting from the

1404
01:02:07,030 --> 01:02:05,910
high-profile individual that had his set

1405
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:07,040
of questions for you

1406
01:02:12,349 --> 01:02:10,530
reporting UFOs is the only first part of

1407
01:02:15,050 --> 01:02:12,359
the is only the first part of the

1408
01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:15,060
process the second part is investigating

1409
01:02:20,839 --> 01:02:18,750
claims and eliminating IFOS do you

1410
01:02:25,609 --> 01:02:20,849
believe the Navy and Air Force will

1411
01:02:28,660 --> 01:02:25,619
conduct investigations I think that they

1412
01:02:31,550 --> 01:02:28,670
probably will with their own pilots and

1413
01:02:33,410 --> 01:02:31,560
service members that have significant

1414
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,420
encounters I do believe that they will

1415
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:35,760
and who's to say that they haven't in

1416
01:02:41,060 --> 01:02:38,730
the past you know I mean I think that

1417
01:02:44,450 --> 01:02:41,070
that's hidden from the public I mean if

1418
01:02:47,329 --> 01:02:44,460
a military pilot you know now you know I

1419
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:47,339
I have to say that some of these guys

1420
01:02:50,780 --> 01:02:48,930
from the Nimitz said that they have

1421
01:02:53,660 --> 01:02:50,790
reported it and no one seemed to care so

1422
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:53,670
again I can't be sure that I'm not privy

1423
01:02:58,060 --> 01:02:56,010
to that information I do hope that they

1424
01:03:01,400 --> 01:02:58,070
do take it seriously I hope that they

1425
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:01,410
investigate the reports from their

1426
01:03:06,050 --> 01:03:03,930
pilots and I hope that they continue to

1427
01:03:09,230 --> 01:03:06,060
eliminate the ones that are I oppose for

1428
01:03:12,380 --> 01:03:09,240
instance I think that there should be

1429
01:03:14,990 --> 01:03:12,390
some way for the public as well to

1430
01:03:18,109 --> 01:03:15,000
report things at this point as you know

1431
01:03:19,849 --> 01:03:18,119
there really is no official program if

1432
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:19,859
you try to report something people are

1433
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:21,810
very frustrated even if they see

1434
01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:24,089
something significant say near an

1435
01:03:29,390 --> 01:03:26,310
airport or something that they feel as a

1436
01:03:32,570 --> 01:03:29,400
safety issue unless it's you know I mean

1437
01:03:35,450 --> 01:03:32,580
I don't know that if you call in a

1438
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:35,460
report that you would just be told to if

1439
01:03:39,470 --> 01:03:36,810
you call the police they would tell you

1440
01:03:40,670 --> 01:03:39,480
to call the Air Force and call the Air

1441
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:40,680
Force they would tell you to call the

1442
01:03:45,020 --> 01:03:42,480
police then finally anyway tell you to

1443
01:03:47,770 --> 01:03:45,030
calm you thought in the end or they

1444
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:47,780
might tell you to call Peter Davenport

1445
01:03:55,390 --> 01:03:51,410
so so yeah I mean I

1446
01:03:58,420 --> 01:03:55,400
I really should create an agency you

1447
01:04:00,910 --> 01:03:58,430
know I'm not sure if it's under NASA or

1448
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:00,920
what what department but there should be

1449
01:04:05,260 --> 01:04:03,710
some office that's it handles it you

1450
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:05,270
know we don't have Project Blue Book

1451
01:04:12,279 --> 01:04:07,609
anymore so I think it's about time

1452
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:12,289
now Tom Whitmore formerly have moved on

1453
01:04:15,430 --> 01:04:13,910
I believe he may have returned from that

1454
01:04:19,779 --> 01:04:15,440
organization I'll have to double check

1455
01:04:23,230 --> 01:04:19,789
on that but Tom Whitmore he wants to

1456
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:23,240
know a what if any parties confiscated

1457
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:25,730
information regarding the incidents from

1458
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:28,400
the ship government agency and her

1459
01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:34,400
department you know the guys that handed

1460
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:38,809
over the stuff namely Gary Ortiz and

1461
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:43,039
Patrick you know Hughes said that they

1462
01:04:47,289 --> 01:04:45,650
didn't recognize the guys that took it

1463
01:04:49,630 --> 01:04:47,299
they of course their chain of command

1464
01:04:53,910 --> 01:04:49,640
that we're leading these guys into their

1465
01:04:55,930 --> 01:04:53,920
spaces to retrieve the classified data

1466
01:04:58,930 --> 01:04:55,940
they knew them because that was their

1467
01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:58,940
CEO but the guys in tow Patrick says

1468
01:05:03,309 --> 01:05:00,559
they were United States Air Force

1469
01:05:05,470 --> 01:05:03,319
officers he recognized the insignia but

1470
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:05,480
he didn't recognize any other unit or

1471
01:05:10,569 --> 01:05:07,849
anything like that gary said the guys

1472
01:05:13,779 --> 01:05:10,579
that came aboard were just plainclothes

1473
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:13,789
guys so at this point we don't know who

1474
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:16,160
they were or what their intentions were

1475
01:05:24,490 --> 01:05:18,650
wouldn't it be safe to say or assume

1476
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:24,500
that it could not just have been any Joe

1477
01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:27,200
off the street that it definitely would

1478
01:05:31,660 --> 01:05:28,880
have had to have been a government

1479
01:05:34,299 --> 01:05:31,670
related party of folks who went in there

1480
01:05:36,730 --> 01:05:34,309
to gather this information and take it

1481
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:36,740
away because how could that information

1482
01:05:42,339 --> 01:05:38,510
have leaked to the public so that folks

1483
01:05:44,859 --> 01:05:42,349
could then disguise himself so to speak

1484
01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:44,869
as officials when they're not or was

1485
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:49,190
there a possibility of that no both

1486
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:52,640
individuals both Navy vets said that the

1487
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:55,250
the people that were there basically

1488
01:06:02,700 --> 01:05:58,250
were with their chain of command I mean

1489
01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:02,710
the commanding officers so you know you

1490
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:04,360
from from what they said they had

1491
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:06,400
authority they would have had command

1492
01:06:13,050 --> 01:06:10,330
above the people on the ship now what

1493
01:06:14,460 --> 01:06:13,060
those vetting processes are for for that

1494
01:06:17,070 --> 01:06:14,470
type of thing you know

1495
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:17,080
boarding a military ship and so on I'm

1496
01:06:27,860 --> 01:06:24,960
another question concerning the water

1497
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:27,870
turbulence indicated in Episode one of

1498
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:30,810
unidentified was this from an underwater

1499
01:06:37,140 --> 01:06:35,290
UFO in other words us so that was that

1500
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:37,150
us no question I had wanted to ask you

1501
01:06:44,190 --> 01:06:40,690
from Tom Whitmore yeah I mean at this

1502
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:44,200
point we still don't know you know there

1503
01:06:51,030 --> 01:06:47,370
has been conjecture about sonar contacts

1504
01:06:53,550 --> 01:06:51,040
during this event but as Gary has

1505
01:06:55,260 --> 01:06:53,560
learned recently at least the Princeton

1506
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:55,270
didn't apparently didn't have any

1507
01:07:01,170 --> 01:06:57,280
contacts in some of the official

1508
01:07:03,030 --> 01:07:01,180
documents the USS Louisville the you

1509
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:03,040
know Los Angeles class attack submarine

1510
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:06,610
that was there in the strike group did

1511
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:10,570
not have sonar contacts and the pilots

1512
01:07:14,570 --> 01:07:12,910
didn't really see exactly what was under

1513
01:07:17,610 --> 01:07:14,580
the water if there was something there

1514
01:07:20,790 --> 01:07:17,620
what was causing it so at this point I

1515
01:07:23,310 --> 01:07:20,800
don't think we know Tom's last question

1516
01:07:28,170 --> 01:07:23,320
do you believe the US Navy is capable of

1517
01:07:30,750 --> 01:07:28,180
tracking UFOs underwater yeah I believe

1518
01:07:34,350 --> 01:07:30,760
that they're capable of tracking it I'm

1519
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:34,360
not entirely convinced there isn't some

1520
01:07:41,300 --> 01:07:38,110
type of program specifically in with the

1521
01:07:43,610 --> 01:07:41,310
submarine service in the Navy that

1522
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:43,620
doesn't report

1523
01:07:49,710 --> 01:07:46,960
unidentified contacts the term fast

1524
01:07:52,500 --> 01:07:49,720
movers is thrown about around a lot and

1525
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:52,510
you know in some reports that's an

1526
01:07:58,500 --> 01:07:55,650
official terms official designation of

1527
01:08:01,320 --> 01:07:58,510
these underwater contacts that a

1528
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:01,330
submarine might have anywhere in the

1529
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:04,930
world that's traveling at speeds that

1530
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:07,570
exceed any kind of conventional craft

1531
01:08:13,650 --> 01:08:12,130
that we have just so you know there's

1532
01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:13,660
quite a few people who had wanted to

1533
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:15,430
talk to you today so I actually could

1534
01:08:17,670 --> 01:08:16,210
not take all of

1535
01:08:19,979 --> 01:08:17,680
their questions because there were so

1536
01:08:21,539 --> 01:08:19,989
many people but I do just have a few

1537
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:21,549
people left who wanted to ask you

1538
01:08:25,499 --> 01:08:23,290
questions do you have time for that and

1539
01:08:28,110 --> 01:08:25,509
they did want to let you know that this

1540
01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:28,120
will actually be a part two is what

1541
01:08:33,930 --> 01:08:29,440
we're going to do with this so we'll

1542
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:33,940
have this show on Sunday at noon West

1543
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:36,790
Coast time with the in the midst

1544
01:08:40,769 --> 01:08:38,950
gentleman and other gentleman that want

1545
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:40,779
to be able to share their stories and

1546
01:08:44,910 --> 01:08:42,370
then they're going to there's going to

1547
01:08:47,010 --> 01:08:44,920
be a special part to with just you okay

1548
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:47,020
yeah that sounds good otherwise people

1549
01:08:53,099 --> 01:08:49,210
are going to have to like plan half

1550
01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:53,109
their day to like listen to hope yes so

1551
01:08:57,150 --> 01:08:55,089
I'm gonna go ahead and ask those other

1552
01:08:59,610 --> 01:08:57,160
folks questions right now rabe Rose

1553
01:09:01,620 --> 01:08:59,620
wants to know this with so many people

1554
01:09:04,170 --> 01:09:01,630
reporting a conscious connection either

1555
01:09:07,740 --> 01:09:04,180
before or after an encounter such as

1556
01:09:10,050 --> 01:09:07,750
Kevin day has described I would ask Dave

1557
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:10,060
if they have experienced something

1558
01:09:16,769 --> 01:09:12,370
similar or asked them do you have any

1559
01:09:19,979 --> 01:09:16,779
input on that yeah you know one thing

1560
01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:19,989
that I didn't expect in the email

1561
01:09:24,749 --> 01:09:22,870
address and you know in the film that I

1562
01:09:28,590 --> 01:09:24,759
asked people to contact me if they've

1563
01:09:31,490 --> 01:09:28,600
had encounters was people contacting me

1564
01:09:36,269 --> 01:09:31,500
that wanted to talk about these

1565
01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:36,279
post-effects I I have had navy and other

1566
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:39,219
military service branch members contact

1567
01:09:45,690 --> 01:09:42,640
me wanting to talk about that in some

1568
01:09:48,059 --> 01:09:45,700
cases they want to tell me that you know

1569
01:09:51,660 --> 01:09:48,069
the sightings themselves aren't three

1570
01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:51,670
the real thing to focus on that actually

1571
01:09:58,020 --> 01:09:55,150
it's part of something much bigger that

1572
01:09:59,490 --> 01:09:58,030
is gonna be you know happening and you

1573
01:10:02,250 --> 01:09:59,500
know sort of interesting I have an open

1574
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:02,260
mind I don't you know try to shut these

1575
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:05,920
people down in any way I'm not sure so

1576
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:07,330
if somebody's telling me that I'll

1577
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:09,600
listen to them I've had other people

1578
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:13,210
that have had sightings profound

1579
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:15,730
sightings that have said that it's been

1580
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:18,640
truly troubling to them even all these

1581
01:10:23,090 --> 01:10:21,280
years it could be you know many years

1582
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:23,100
later that they're still having

1583
01:10:27,470 --> 01:10:25,210
experiences and it's been very troubling

1584
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:27,480
to them you know you

1585
01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:30,000
I get here's something interesting I I

1586
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:33,420
get those comments but then I've also

1587
01:10:40,940 --> 01:10:37,310
been contacted by people that you know

1588
01:10:43,850 --> 01:10:40,950
clinical psychologists and people that

1589
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:43,860
do regression and so on that are saying

1590
01:10:49,729 --> 01:10:46,650
you know hey if you have anybody that

1591
01:10:52,370 --> 01:10:49,739
needs to talk to anybody that is you

1592
01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:52,380
know it needs help I'm willing to help

1593
01:10:58,100 --> 01:10:55,470
so there's sort of both sides of it and

1594
01:10:59,690 --> 01:10:58,110
I found that quite surprising and I

1595
01:11:02,270 --> 01:10:59,700
don't know that the full story isn't

1596
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:02,280
related to something much bigger you

1597
01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:06,450
know Ray Bros still had more questions

1598
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:08,640
added to the above commander faber

1599
01:11:13,460 --> 01:11:10,910
reported seeing a cube within a sphere

1600
01:11:15,170 --> 01:11:13,470
before other eyewitnesses especially

1601
01:11:17,180 --> 01:11:15,180
those pilots who may have got a

1602
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:17,190
relatively close view did they also

1603
01:11:22,700 --> 01:11:19,530
witness this effect and could this be

1604
01:11:25,310 --> 01:11:22,710
excuse me could the sphere be described

1605
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:25,320
as a solid object or more of an

1606
01:11:31,070 --> 01:11:27,690
atmospheric anomaly in other words a

1607
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:31,080
field distortion around the inner object

1608
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:34,290
with the atom project suggesting

1609
01:11:40,340 --> 01:11:37,050
negative mass field generators could

1610
01:11:44,170 --> 01:11:40,350
this explain the phenomenon well yeah I

1611
01:11:46,820 --> 01:11:44,180
think he's talking about the reports by

1612
01:11:51,020 --> 01:11:46,830
lieutenant graves and a coin of the USS

1613
01:11:52,670 --> 01:11:51,030
Roosevelt 2015 describing them seeing a

1614
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:52,680
at least I don't think it was them but

1615
01:11:58,700 --> 01:11:56,090
one of their squadron mates seeing a

1616
01:12:02,300 --> 01:11:58,710
sphere that looked like a commis like an

1617
01:12:06,110 --> 01:12:02,310
opaque beach ball that had a cube inside

1618
01:12:07,610 --> 01:12:06,120
of it and that it almost they almost had

1619
01:12:09,820 --> 01:12:07,620
a mid-air collision with this thing it

1620
01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:09,830
like flew between two of their jets now

1621
01:12:15,950 --> 01:12:13,280
what that could be I have no idea

1622
01:12:17,930 --> 01:12:15,960
there's been several people that have

1623
01:12:23,420 --> 01:12:17,940
proposed that this might be some type of

1624
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:23,430
radar radar balloon it's in use and that

1625
01:12:28,340 --> 01:12:24,930
they just didn't know they weren't aware

1626
01:12:30,410 --> 01:12:28,350
that that was there I have really it

1627
01:12:31,340 --> 01:12:30,420
again this is the the Roosevelt thing

1628
01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:31,350
and I don't think we have enough

1629
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:33,300
information it's just basically one

1630
01:12:35,630 --> 01:12:35,130
statement we don't even know how big it

1631
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:35,640
is

1632
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:38,250
we don't know you know if it was

1633
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:40,710
rotating if it was glowing there's just

1634
01:12:44,780 --> 01:12:42,450
any questions at this point that need to

1635
01:12:46,970 --> 01:12:44,790
be answered I want to make it clear to

1636
01:12:50,180 --> 01:12:46,980
our Linton listeners what the atom

1637
01:12:52,729 --> 01:12:50,190
project means the dot is affiliated with

1638
01:12:55,550 --> 01:12:52,739
to the Stars Academy of Arts and Science

1639
01:12:57,950 --> 01:12:55,560
the atom research project is an academic

1640
01:12:59,870 --> 01:12:57,960
research program program focused on

1641
01:13:04,700 --> 01:12:59,880
exotic materials for technology

1642
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:04,710
innovation next question still ray Bros

1643
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:07,410
with naval and Air Force bases close by

1644
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:09,210
to the field operations during these

1645
01:13:13,490 --> 01:13:11,610
encounters and days of possible

1646
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:13,500
notification due to the Princeton's

1647
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:15,930
tracking days prior to the pilots

1648
01:13:20,540 --> 01:13:18,330
encounters could the Air Force Response

1649
01:13:24,590 --> 01:13:20,550
Team reported as taking the data tapes

1650
01:13:26,540 --> 01:13:24,600
been dispatched from there oh yeah I

1651
01:13:29,780 --> 01:13:26,550
mean there's two parts of that first of

1652
01:13:31,820 --> 01:13:29,790
all absolutely you know it's probably

1653
01:13:34,580 --> 01:13:31,830
San Diego in that area is one of the

1654
01:13:36,860 --> 01:13:34,590
most highly monitored naval warning

1655
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:36,870
areas and operations areas yeah also

1656
01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:39,690
have the facilities on San Clemente

1657
01:13:45,470 --> 01:13:41,910
Island which is also you know has a

1658
01:13:48,020 --> 01:13:45,480
whole base and radar system there you

1659
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:48,030
know if something was going on all of

1660
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:49,770
those different commands are going to be

1661
01:13:54,170 --> 01:13:52,290
aware of it and if indeed they were

1662
01:13:56,780 --> 01:13:54,180
aware of it starting back on the

1663
01:13:58,670 --> 01:13:56,790
November 10th and by the 16th they would

1664
01:14:00,650 --> 01:13:58,680
have been very aware of it and the fact

1665
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:00,660
that these airplanes were we're seeing

1666
01:14:06,010 --> 01:14:03,570
these things they may have you know come

1667
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,020
right out like a 30 minute hop from

1668
01:14:11,060 --> 01:14:08,640
Naval Air Station

1669
01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:11,070
out there to the ship so I don't see any

1670
01:14:14,209 --> 01:14:11,910
reason why not

1671
01:14:17,209 --> 01:14:14,219
now that the second part of that is in

1672
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:17,219
these encounters why is it that they all

1673
01:14:24,650 --> 01:14:21,450
seem to be around these Navy operations

1674
01:14:27,530 --> 01:14:24,660
areas like in each case with the

1675
01:14:30,890 --> 01:14:27,540
Roosevelt and the Nimitz events these

1676
01:14:33,979 --> 01:14:30,900
are you know training areas that the

1677
01:14:36,979 --> 01:14:33,989
Navy controls and there's bases and so

1678
01:14:39,950 --> 01:14:36,989
on in those areas you know I start

1679
01:14:41,780 --> 01:14:39,960
thinking well what are some other bases

1680
01:14:43,370 --> 01:14:41,790
what are some other Navy bases on our

1681
01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:43,380
Coast maybe we should start looking

1682
01:14:48,350 --> 01:14:46,080
there because these UFOs seem to be only

1683
01:14:51,290 --> 01:14:48,360
appearing well not only but you know in

1684
01:14:53,310 --> 01:14:51,300
these cases around those areas so if we

1685
01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:53,320
had to predict we should look at other

1686
01:15:00,150 --> 01:14:56,800
similar Navy training areas understood

1687
01:15:02,490 --> 01:15:00,160
last ray bros question was there any

1688
01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:02,500
reporting to the higher command done or

1689
01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:05,350
potential monitoring of chatter those

1690
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:08,350
days priors two prior to alert what

1691
01:15:14,220 --> 01:15:11,530
surely was a response team Dave was such

1692
01:15:16,620 --> 01:15:14,230
a positive response to your first two

1693
01:15:19,470 --> 01:15:16,630
efforts to document this encounter have

1694
01:15:21,150 --> 01:15:19,480
you been approached to expand upon them

1695
01:15:25,260 --> 01:15:21,160
with professional funding or to produce

1696
01:15:28,230 --> 01:15:25,270
a show of your own you know as far as

1697
01:15:30,030 --> 01:15:28,240
reporting it yeah I do know that the the

1698
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:30,040
guys on the ships again I can't speak

1699
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:32,080
for everybody I know that on the

1700
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:36,490
Princeton Kevin and you know his crew

1701
01:15:41,670 --> 01:15:38,650
there did try to set it up the chain of

1702
01:15:45,150 --> 01:15:41,680
command and for the most part they were

1703
01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:45,160
ignored you know they were told that you

1704
01:15:51,630 --> 01:15:47,470
know it's just ice crystals or something

1705
01:15:55,530 --> 01:15:51,640
like that so you know going back to to

1706
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:55,540
the Nimitz and the the the the reporting

1707
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:57,370
of that event I know that I think if

1708
01:16:01,860 --> 01:15:59,440
they go up to fleet and it didn't go any

1709
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:01,870
further and that information can be

1710
01:16:07,890 --> 01:16:04,090
found and I believe it's the executive

1711
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:07,900
summary report that is on the Tuda stars

1712
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:12,850
Academy website no one has offered me a

1713
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:16,570
film deal I am here if you if you want

1714
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:18,010
to send me a film do give me a call

1715
01:16:24,090 --> 01:16:21,370
let's talk let's do lunch because we can

1716
01:16:25,620 --> 01:16:24,100
make a film yes sorry wait sorry ray I

1717
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:25,630
didn't realize there was those were two

1718
01:16:29,460 --> 01:16:27,490
questions there in that last cluster of

1719
01:16:30,900 --> 01:16:29,470
the paragraph that you sent me so I

1720
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:30,910
apologize for that but yes thank you for

1721
01:16:38,250 --> 01:16:33,250
having answered that Kirk Morgan has a

1722
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:38,260
question for you perhaps you can maybe

1723
01:16:44,130 --> 01:16:40,210
glean from this sentence what he's

1724
01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:44,140
asking one could be if they had seen any

1725
01:16:49,290 --> 01:16:46,990
anomalies on the older radar systems

1726
01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:49,300
maybe he's asking a question there about

1727
01:16:56,940 --> 01:16:54,670
older radar systems you know I I'm going

1728
01:17:00,780 --> 01:16:56,950
to sort of assume what he's talking

1729
01:17:02,490 --> 01:17:00,790
about and in the unidentified program

1730
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:02,500
when they talk about the USS Roosevelt

1731
01:17:10,050 --> 01:17:06,610
event the pilots start talking about

1732
01:17:16,649 --> 01:17:10,060
seeing objects when they had newer

1733
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:16,659
radars upgraded and the Navy f-18s Super

1734
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:19,570
Hornets did get an upgrade to the radar

1735
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:23,170
system and those began I think around

1736
01:17:30,570 --> 01:17:28,030
2005 and this was called the apg 79 AAS

1737
01:17:34,610 --> 01:17:30,580
a radar and they were installing these

1738
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:34,620
back then so I would assume that the the

1739
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:39,280
Roosevelt in 2015 2014 had that specific

1740
01:17:45,689 --> 01:17:43,810
radar installed in it it did seem like

1741
01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:45,699
what they were talking about in the show

1742
01:17:52,350 --> 01:17:50,860
is something happen that year that gave

1743
01:17:54,930 --> 01:17:52,360
them this capability and they all

1744
01:17:56,879 --> 01:17:54,940
started seeing stuff that they hadn't

1745
01:17:58,860 --> 01:17:56,889
seen the year before I started

1746
01:18:03,959 --> 01:17:58,870
researching that and I found a

1747
01:18:07,410 --> 01:18:03,969
technology called irst infrared search

1748
01:18:09,689 --> 01:18:07,420
and track that was deployed around that

1749
01:18:13,050 --> 01:18:09,699
time and this is a technology I think

1750
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:13,060
that might have come out of Lockheed or

1751
01:18:18,930 --> 01:18:16,690
Boeing and it's basically an infrared

1752
01:18:21,379 --> 01:18:18,940
sensor that's attached to the centerline

1753
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:21,389
fuel tank on the Super Hornet jet and

1754
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:24,159
according to what I researched it said

1755
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:27,489
it gives the pilots long-range infrared

1756
01:18:32,129 --> 01:18:29,679
scanning and tracking of airborne

1757
01:18:33,660 --> 01:18:32,139
targets and I'm like wow that sounds

1758
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:33,670
like exactly what could have allowed

1759
01:18:38,970 --> 01:18:36,850
them to maybe start seeing UFOs if they

1760
01:18:41,310 --> 01:18:38,980
suddenly got this new sensor attached to

1761
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:41,320
their jet in addition to the radar so

1762
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:44,050
I'm gonna like follow up on that and

1763
01:18:48,419 --> 01:18:45,850
find more information about that sensor

1764
01:18:50,939 --> 01:18:48,429
and see if that you know as we move

1765
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:50,949
forward in this case becomes true that

1766
01:18:57,090 --> 01:18:52,690
they say yeah that's what allowed us to

1767
01:18:58,649 --> 01:18:57,100
you know track these UFOs these

1768
01:19:01,410 --> 01:18:58,659
questions are from an extremely

1769
01:19:04,890 --> 01:19:01,420
well-known person who is iconic in the

1770
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:04,900
youth fall G community and I believe

1771
01:19:08,850 --> 01:19:06,130
some of these questions have already

1772
01:19:11,070 --> 01:19:08,860
been answered so let's just go ahead and

1773
01:19:12,930 --> 01:19:11,080
do it this way if you feel you've

1774
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:12,940
answered them you can just say so and

1775
01:19:18,510 --> 01:19:15,610
I'll move on to the next question

1776
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:18,520
over the years you have been flying have

1777
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:21,310
other pilots chatted up encounters with

1778
01:19:28,050 --> 01:19:22,570
a you ApS

1779
01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:28,060
they have had can you repeat that one

1780
01:19:31,290 --> 01:19:29,710
more time like over the years I think

1781
01:19:33,150 --> 01:19:31,300
what he meant I think what he meant to

1782
01:19:36,270 --> 01:19:33,160
ask is over the years you have been

1783
01:19:39,090 --> 01:19:36,280
flying have other pilots chatted you up

1784
01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:39,100
with encounters with you ApS they have

1785
01:19:45,450 --> 01:19:41,950
had well I think that that would be

1786
01:19:47,610 --> 01:19:45,460
probably more you know aimed at one of

1787
01:19:49,530 --> 01:19:47,620
the pilots Heights what he meant yeah

1788
01:19:51,450 --> 01:19:49,540
right because you don't fly isn't that

1789
01:19:55,290 --> 01:19:51,460
good oh yeah and so that's probably what

1790
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:55,300
he meant that for so uh what he did was

1791
01:20:00,420 --> 01:19:57,130
he wrote a series of questions for me to

1792
01:20:02,220 --> 01:20:00,430
ask folks on the show and I think he he

1793
01:20:04,290 --> 01:20:02,230
rightfully assumed that you were going

1794
01:20:05,850 --> 01:20:04,300
to be on the panel and some of these are

1795
01:20:08,190 --> 01:20:05,860
for you and some of these are for them

1796
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:08,200
so I'll go ahead and look for the ones

1797
01:20:15,690 --> 01:20:10,210
that could be for you it'll just take a

1798
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:15,700
moment okay I'll ask you this one are

1799
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:19,210
you aware of the huge database of pilot

1800
01:20:26,370 --> 01:20:21,610
sightings built up over several decades

1801
01:20:28,980 --> 01:20:26,380
by dr. Richard Haines at NASA no I'm not

1802
01:20:32,190 --> 01:20:28,990
I mean I'd be interested to definitely

1803
01:20:36,330 --> 01:20:32,200
research that though okay the next one

1804
01:20:38,580 --> 01:20:36,340
is I know this is a bit sensitive so let

1805
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:38,590
me ask this way are you comfortable with

1806
01:20:42,540 --> 01:20:40,960
the explanation these you IPS being

1807
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:42,550
reported are controlled by non-human

1808
01:20:49,740 --> 01:20:47,050
intelligence from elsewhere I think that

1809
01:20:52,170 --> 01:20:49,750
that's a theory I mean there's many

1810
01:20:54,450 --> 01:20:52,180
theories that have been proposed and you

1811
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:54,460
know that's one of them I mean I'm not

1812
01:21:00,480 --> 01:20:57,760
at this point I'm sort of a non-biased

1813
01:21:02,610 --> 01:21:00,490
skeptic that is trying to find answers

1814
01:21:05,070 --> 01:21:02,620
and I don't think that we have the

1815
01:21:07,290 --> 01:21:05,080
answers yet so I think the answers are

1816
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:07,300
out there we just have to keep looking

1817
01:21:11,670 --> 01:21:09,730
at the observations that are being

1818
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:11,680
presented to us and eventually if we can

1819
01:21:18,570 --> 01:21:15,490
t continue with that you know that will

1820
01:21:21,780 --> 01:21:18,580
one I hope one day in my life and we'll

1821
01:21:23,790 --> 01:21:21,790
have more answers can you envision a

1822
01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:23,800
full congressional hearing specifically

1823
01:21:28,620 --> 01:21:26,260
for military pilots who have had you ap

1824
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:28,630
encounters

1825
01:21:35,950 --> 01:21:32,320
well I think that you know if we have a

1826
01:21:38,590 --> 01:21:35,960
significant enough event that that's

1827
01:21:41,140 --> 01:21:38,600
gonna be demanded I mean it depends I

1828
01:21:44,290 --> 01:21:41,150
think at this point I can't really see

1829
01:21:47,350 --> 01:21:44,300
that but perhaps as as we move forward

1830
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:47,360
with you know the military's reporting

1831
01:21:52,270 --> 01:21:49,970
of these events if this continues and

1832
01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:52,280
there's no sort of explanation if our

1833
01:21:56,440 --> 01:21:54,710
military cannot provide that maybe that

1834
01:21:58,980 --> 01:21:56,450
Congress would get involved is like say

1835
01:22:01,450 --> 01:21:58,990
we need to form a committee we need to

1836
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:01,460
investigate this we need to get answers

1837
01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:02,810
because this is a matter of national

1838
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:05,510
security this is a matter of airspace

1839
01:22:10,930 --> 01:22:08,450
safety we have you know civilian jets

1840
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:10,940
flying crisscross a clock across the

1841
01:22:15,390 --> 01:22:13,010
globe if there's technology out there

1842
01:22:17,860 --> 01:22:15,400
that can shut down for instance a

1843
01:22:19,390 --> 01:22:17,870
civilian aircraft would you want to be

1844
01:22:20,890 --> 01:22:19,400
flying around in this thing we don't

1845
01:22:23,050 --> 01:22:20,900
know what it is actually can shut off a

1846
01:22:25,330 --> 01:22:23,060
jet that you're flying in I don't want

1847
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:25,340
to be in that chat if this technology is

1848
01:22:30,340 --> 01:22:27,440
out there I want to find out where it's

1849
01:22:32,770 --> 01:22:30,350
coming from how it works you know whose

1850
01:22:35,230 --> 01:22:32,780
technology it is and there should be

1851
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:35,240
congressional inquiry if that happens I

1852
01:22:39,610 --> 01:22:38,090
mean did you notice that many articles

1853
01:22:41,890 --> 01:22:39,620
published during the last presidential

1854
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:41,900
election about connections between the

1855
01:22:48,940 --> 01:22:46,690
Clinton campaign team and you a piece I

1856
01:22:52,150 --> 01:22:48,950
you know I looked into that a little bit

1857
01:22:56,230 --> 01:22:52,160
I mean there has been some conjecture

1858
01:23:00,850 --> 01:22:56,240
that if Clinton was elected her team was

1859
01:23:03,550 --> 01:23:00,860
going to press much more into this idea

1860
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:03,560
that the government has UFO information

1861
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:05,330
that's not being you know presented to

1862
01:23:11,170 --> 01:23:07,910
the general public and that it would be

1863
01:23:13,660 --> 01:23:11,180
presented and of course that you know

1864
01:23:16,570 --> 01:23:13,670
that didn't happen she wasn't elected

1865
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:16,580
and so that that poll ID and program

1866
01:23:20,890 --> 01:23:17,920
never took place

1867
01:23:22,420 --> 01:23:20,900
I'm you know I I would just read about

1868
01:23:24,850 --> 01:23:22,430
it but I don't know too much about it

1869
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:24,860
are you where'd that billionaire space

1870
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:27,650
entrepreneur Robert Bigelow stated on 60

1871
01:23:32,460 --> 01:23:29,690
minutes in May of 2017 that

1872
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extraterrestrials are visiting earth now

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01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:35,660
that's right yeah I mean I think that is

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01:23:40,990 --> 01:23:39,440
a pretty iconic interview for somebody

1875
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:41,000
that is you know do

1876
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contract work for NASA with the

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inflatable space habitats and the other

1878
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:48,890
you know you know work that he does for

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01:23:56,740 --> 01:23:53,440
US government as you know Robert Bigelow

1880
01:24:01,870 --> 01:23:56,750
was also contracted under the a tip-in a

1881
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:01,880
SAP programs to study you ApS he seems

1882
01:24:08,410 --> 01:24:04,730
convinced now I don't know that he's

1883
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:08,420
ever provided an explanation for those

1884
01:24:14,110 --> 01:24:11,330
comments I mean he said he doesn't give

1885
01:24:16,990 --> 01:24:14,120
a damn if anyone believes him or not he

1886
01:24:19,210 --> 01:24:17,000
knows it well you know I think for the

1887
01:24:22,150 --> 01:24:19,220
rest of us maybe we don't have that

1888
01:24:23,620 --> 01:24:22,160
luxury to not give a damn about whether

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01:24:25,780 --> 01:24:23,630
somebody believes us or not I mean

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that's why I don't say I know they're

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real because I don't know if he knows

1892
01:24:31,810 --> 01:24:29,090
I'd like to know what his proof is and

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01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:31,820
what his evidence well any advanced

1894
01:24:35,770 --> 01:24:33,530
technology of unknown origin is a

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potential threat do you think the u IPS

1896
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:37,610
you encountered are threat at this time

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that would be for one of the pilots let

1898
01:24:44,350 --> 01:24:42,410
me move on to the next one do you expect

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other pilots and support crew to come

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01:24:49,450 --> 01:24:46,040
forward in the near future I think we

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covered that yeah I mean I I hope that

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01:24:54,210 --> 01:24:51,650
we have more aircrew that come forward

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if you look at a you know both the

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01:25:00,040 --> 01:24:57,980
Roosevelt and you look at the Nimitz for

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01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:00,050
instance you have multiple fighter

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squadrons and within each of those

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01:25:07,630 --> 01:25:05,210
squadrons you have dozens and dozens of

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01:25:10,570 --> 01:25:07,640
pilots and jets and if you're talking

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about you know years of deployment and

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01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:12,260
so on there has to be hundreds and

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01:25:16,030 --> 01:25:14,090
hundreds there if there's two guys that

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came forward or three guys that came

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01:25:20,380 --> 01:25:18,500
forward there's probably hundreds of

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01:25:23,530 --> 01:25:20,390
people that have had these encounters we

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01:25:25,150 --> 01:25:23,540
just haven't heard from them yet you're

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gonna be very happy when I tell you this

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01:25:31,260 --> 01:25:28,160
there's only two questions left one is

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01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:31,270
from rice break and one is for myself

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01:25:37,540 --> 01:25:35,290
awesome the one from Ryan Sprague is

1920
01:25:39,730 --> 01:25:37,550
just the latest with the gibble and

1921
01:25:42,070 --> 01:25:39,740
go-fast videos is the info on the

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01:25:44,140 --> 01:25:42,080
unidentified show aligning with the

1923
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:44,150
extensive research dave is doing on

1924
01:25:52,580 --> 01:25:48,110
tracking more roosevelt members down

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01:25:54,710 --> 01:25:52,590
you know as far as I found from our

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01:25:57,770 --> 01:25:54,720
research you know it kind of lined up

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01:26:01,010 --> 01:25:57,780
now again we had names of pilots from

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01:26:03,230 --> 01:26:01,020
the Roosevelt incident we had Maine made

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01:26:06,290 --> 01:26:03,240
contact with them it's my understanding

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01:26:09,620 --> 01:26:06,300
that the scu the scientific coalition of

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01:26:11,450 --> 01:26:09,630
ethology has had some contact with USS

1932
01:26:14,110 --> 01:26:11,460
Roosevelt personnel I don't know if they

1933
01:26:16,940 --> 01:26:14,120
were pilots or not I'm not privy to that

1934
01:26:18,770 --> 01:26:16,950
particular witness but from what

1935
01:26:21,230 --> 01:26:18,780
everything that I've heard it has all

1936
01:26:23,330 --> 01:26:21,240
lined up I mean I haven't seen anything

1937
01:26:25,820 --> 01:26:23,340
diverged from that I mean nothing in

1938
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:25,830
unidentified even with the US has

1939
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:30,170
Princeton you know as far as you know

1940
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:33,570
the idea of of seeing the objects

1941
01:26:40,610 --> 01:26:37,920
through the big eye on the ships which

1942
01:26:42,740 --> 01:26:40,620
in some ways has been in dispute that's

1943
01:26:46,190 --> 01:26:42,750
been you know shown in that program as

1944
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:46,200
being factual you know with Sean Cahill

1945
01:26:49,940 --> 01:26:48,330
you know the underwater stuff I mean

1946
01:26:52,490 --> 01:26:49,950
there's a lot of reports of that and

1947
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:52,500
unidentified as far as underwater UFOs

1948
01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:54,960
being observed especially off the Baja I

1949
01:27:00,800 --> 01:26:58,080
mean Kevin days am account of the

1950
01:27:02,990 --> 01:27:00,810
objects on radar the groups he calls

1951
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:03,000
them fleets of UFOs or it was raining

1952
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:06,330
UFOs that's all been you know covered in

1953
01:27:10,670 --> 01:27:09,330
that program yeah I mean everything that

1954
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:10,680
that I know and everything in my

1955
01:27:15,620 --> 01:27:12,480
document I mean the one thing perhaps

1956
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:15,630
they don't address and on identify ideas

1957
01:27:21,650 --> 01:27:18,210
these guys coming aboard and taking

1958
01:27:24,530 --> 01:27:21,660
class afire data bricks but you know it

1959
01:27:27,050 --> 01:27:24,540
hasn't been it hasn't been discounted

1960
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:27,060
either refuted in any way as far as I

1961
01:27:30,890 --> 01:27:29,130
know two things regarding what you said

1962
01:27:32,540 --> 01:27:30,900
and I know you already know this you

1963
01:27:33,410 --> 01:27:32,550
just said this out of habit which I do

1964
01:27:35,660 --> 01:27:33,420
all the time

1965
01:27:37,610 --> 01:27:35,670
this scientific Coalition for ufology

1966
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:37,620
was changed to scientific coalition for

1967
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:40,110
you a piece and then the other thing I

1968
01:27:44,060 --> 01:27:42,210
wanted to mention is I will of course be

1969
01:27:46,190 --> 01:27:44,070
coming back to you later to ask for your

1970
01:27:48,110 --> 01:27:46,200
statement on a review of all of the

1971
01:27:50,180 --> 01:27:48,120
History Channel's unidentified shows

1972
01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:50,190
because I know you've been watching them

1973
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:51,840
and your statement to us is very

1974
01:27:55,550 --> 01:27:53,370
important regarding your reviews of

1975
01:27:57,450 --> 01:27:55,560
those shows the last question I have for

1976
01:28:00,640 --> 01:27:57,460
you Dave is this

1977
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:00,650
from the point that you started this

1978
01:28:09,070 --> 01:28:03,110
project regarding the nimitz encounter

1979
01:28:12,490 --> 01:28:09,080
and the evolution of it what is your

1980
01:28:16,030 --> 01:28:12,500
takeaway overall and I don't mean just

1981
01:28:18,910 --> 01:28:16,040
with the documentary I mean with the

1982
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:18,920
natural inclination to want a network to

1983
01:28:25,570 --> 01:28:21,050
find more people to add to the film or

1984
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:25,580
talk to them the the entire experience

1985
01:28:32,590 --> 01:28:29,330
sort of a panoramic view in every angle

1986
01:28:34,450 --> 01:28:32,600
possible what is your takeaway what have

1987
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:34,460
you learned from everything that you've

1988
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:37,520
done regarding the inception of your

1989
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:40,850
project to now and everything else that

1990
01:28:50,350 --> 01:28:45,530
goes along with it well you know from

1991
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:50,360
the very beginning I think that I had an

1992
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:54,410
idea that anyone could do anything that

1993
01:29:00,520 --> 01:28:56,960
they want to do you don't have to ask

1994
01:29:02,740 --> 01:29:00,530
for permission so there may be a group

1995
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:02,750
that's called to the stars there may be

1996
01:29:09,700 --> 01:29:05,840
a government that's studying this

1997
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:09,710
phenomena if somebody wants to do their

1998
01:29:15,460 --> 01:29:13,130
own project for instance make a film

1999
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:15,470
about the event and contact every single

2000
01:29:22,390 --> 01:29:18,890
person and they're not a Hollywood

2001
01:29:26,170 --> 01:29:22,400
studio they're just one person well why

2002
01:29:28,750 --> 01:29:26,180
not no one I didn't ask permission to do

2003
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:28,760
a film you know if I called somebody I'm

2004
01:29:31,870 --> 01:29:30,080
not saying I'm from The History Channel

2005
01:29:34,330 --> 01:29:31,880
I'm just saying hi I'm Dave I'm doing

2006
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:34,340
well and you know I think that in some

2007
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:36,410
ways people expect there's some

2008
01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:38,210
notoriety or there's some kind of

2009
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:42,320
monetary reward for doing this and

2010
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:45,170
they're not gonna participate if I'm not

2011
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:46,850
the government I'm not gonna participate

2012
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:48,800
I don't want to be in your film because

2013
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:49,970
you're not the History Channel you're

2014
01:29:54,460 --> 01:29:52,400
not ABC News I have no interest in what

2015
01:29:57,130 --> 01:29:54,470
you're doing because you're nobody well

2016
01:29:59,800 --> 01:29:57,140
I am somebody I'm me and I think anybody

2017
01:30:02,710 --> 01:29:59,810
can do it all you have to do is have the

2018
01:30:04,780 --> 01:30:02,720
willpower you have to have persistence

2019
01:30:07,510 --> 01:30:04,790
you have to have dedication you have to

2020
01:30:08,819 --> 01:30:07,520
put the sweat into any project that

2021
01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:08,829
you're doing and this

2022
01:30:13,500 --> 01:30:10,960
projects a prime example because when I

2023
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:13,510
started I had nothing and year later I

2024
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:15,610
have a film with 1.8 million views and

2025
01:30:19,290 --> 01:30:16,960
people some people like it and some

2026
01:30:22,169 --> 01:30:19,300
people don't but you know what can I say

2027
01:30:24,899 --> 01:30:22,179
it's it's something that anyone can do

2028
01:30:27,330 --> 01:30:24,909
and that's like studying this phenomena

2029
01:30:29,609 --> 01:30:27,340
as well if you want to study go study it

2030
01:30:31,649 --> 01:30:29,619
I think anyone can do it and I think

2031
01:30:34,049 --> 01:30:31,659
that's what we need actually to find the

2032
01:30:36,270 --> 01:30:34,059
answers is to have people that are out

2033
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:36,280
there that have good ideas that our

2034
01:30:39,569 --> 01:30:38,050
interest didn't want to put the time in

2035
01:30:42,919 --> 01:30:39,579
those are the people that are probably

2036
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:42,929
gonna solve this not some you know

2037
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:45,010
company out there that's trying to make

2038
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:47,650
a million dollars you know you manage to

2039
01:30:54,899 --> 01:30:52,480
cover a part of the US policy topic that

2040
01:30:57,359 --> 01:30:54,909
nobody has in the respect that you did

2041
01:31:00,030 --> 01:30:57,369
and I really want to congratulate you on

2042
01:31:02,850 --> 01:31:00,040
your incredible efforts that you have

2043
01:31:05,729 --> 01:31:02,860
put forth and whether you like it or not

2044
01:31:08,490 --> 01:31:05,739
you've become a deeply respected icon in

2045
01:31:11,010 --> 01:31:08,500
the UFO G community I just want to thank

2046
01:31:13,919 --> 01:31:11,020
you for having taken all of that time

2047
01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:13,929
and effort not just on your behalf but

2048
01:31:18,689 --> 01:31:16,510
on all of our behalf to be able to

2049
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:18,699
represent something so historical and so

2050
01:31:23,700 --> 01:31:20,800
important for all posterity so thank you

2051
01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:23,710
so much for having done that and I just

2052
01:31:29,609 --> 01:31:27,790
want to extend my gratitude to you well

2053
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:29,619
I mean thank you I appreciate that

2054
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:31,690
chance those are really nice words to

2055
01:31:36,299 --> 01:31:34,210
say and you know I mean I don't know

2056
01:31:38,339 --> 01:31:36,309
that we we don't congratulate ourselves

2057
01:31:41,250 --> 01:31:38,349
enough in this field I mean there's a

2058
01:31:42,990 --> 01:31:41,260
lot of negativity out there but I think

2059
01:31:45,930 --> 01:31:43,000
that you know anybody that's putting an

2060
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:45,940
effort in and trying to help we're

2061
01:31:50,780 --> 01:31:47,770
trying to help finding answers we're

2062
01:31:54,870 --> 01:31:50,790
trying to uncover this mystery and

2063
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:54,880
understand it and you know shine light

2064
01:31:58,890 --> 01:31:57,010
on it for instance and everybody that's

2065
01:32:01,229 --> 01:31:58,900
doing that I think deserves credit and I

2066
01:32:03,870 --> 01:32:01,239
appreciate you recognising the stuff

2067
01:32:05,729 --> 01:32:03,880
that I'm doing well actually I think

2068
01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:05,739
millions of people have and it wasn't

2069
01:32:11,399 --> 01:32:09,040
just one point eight million one point

2070
01:32:13,530 --> 01:32:11,409
eight million people who saw that video

2071
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:13,540
and the YouTube channel that you have it

2072
01:32:21,180 --> 01:32:17,290
on but it's also the one and a half

2073
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:21,190
million people that saw it on Amazon so

2074
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:22,110
literally

2075
01:32:27,350 --> 01:32:24,570
millions and millions of people have

2076
01:32:29,450 --> 01:32:27,360
watched your documentary repeatedly and

2077
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:29,460
I would like for you if you don't mind

2078
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:31,650
to mention the name of your channel so

2079
01:32:35,630 --> 01:32:33,330
that they can actually have the benefit

2080
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:35,640
and privilege of watching that amazing

2081
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:39,570
nimitz encounter film sure I mean if you

2082
01:32:45,050 --> 01:32:42,000
go on YouTube and you just punch in the

2083
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:45,060
nimitz encounters and hit return

2084
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:47,130
it'll probably show up like right in the

2085
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:51,330
on the top level of that you know you

2086
01:32:55,610 --> 01:32:53,610
sometimes get it with other links in

2087
01:32:58,250 --> 01:32:55,620
there but that's the one way to find it

2088
01:33:01,490 --> 01:32:58,260
if you go to the website the nimitz

2089
01:33:04,430 --> 01:33:01,500
encounters dot-com you'll also find a

2090
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:04,440
link there if you're interested in

2091
01:33:11,770 --> 01:33:06,960
downloading the film I've been working

2092
01:33:14,990 --> 01:33:11,780
with John Greenwald of the blackbaud.com

2093
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:15,000
and he was gracious enough to give me

2094
01:33:20,300 --> 01:33:18,330
space on his high-speed server to host

2095
01:33:23,150 --> 01:33:20,310
the file so if you're interested in

2096
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:23,160
downloading this the film for instance

2097
01:33:27,380 --> 01:33:25,770
to show people at home or something you

2098
01:33:30,170 --> 01:33:27,390
know or even to put it on your own

2099
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:30,180
channel which I encourage that's fine

2100
01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:32,970
with me you can download download the

2101
01:33:38,420 --> 01:33:34,800
film there what is the name of your

2102
01:33:40,370 --> 01:33:38,430
channel on YouTube son Nimitz encounters

2103
01:33:41,930 --> 01:33:40,380
I just wanted to make that clear thank

2104
01:33:43,460 --> 01:33:41,940
you Dave for having been on our show

2105
01:33:45,580 --> 01:33:43,470
today I'm very grateful to you and it

2106
01:33:48,620 --> 01:33:45,590
was a privilege and Audia interview deal

2107
01:33:51,590 --> 01:33:48,630
well I appreciate you know the work that

2108
01:33:54,350 --> 01:33:51,600
you're doing Shannon you know Frank as

2109
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:54,360
well and you know you guys have

2110
01:33:59,090 --> 01:33:56,850
supported us in the Navy witnesses going

2111
01:34:01,000 --> 01:33:59,100
from back from the very beginning I

2112
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:01,010
think you guys were the first ones to

2113
01:34:05,570 --> 01:34:03,810
contact us so we really appreciate it as

2114
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:05,580
well thank you I hope you have a